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Well, I started a thread  back in August (https://forums.joeuser.com/411269/) that's seen a lot of activity and actually had quite a few good bits of information for new and old players alike.  I figure it's time to start a new thread and perhaps keep the OP up-to-date with useful information, etc.  Feel free to use this post for any LoL discussion, etc.

Super fast background:  I played a lot of Demigod as pacov/cheesuscrust.  Back in August 2011 or so, I started getting heavily involved in LoL and folks have been kind enough to chime in with tips and links to various sites that have been quite useful to me.  In addition, I've been able to keep up with folks that I've played Demigod with in the past and meet some new folks that play LoL and frequent these message boards. 

Here's some of the things I've learned in the previous thread:

 New Player tips

  • Play the tutorial.
  • Consider picking up the starter bundle.  It's 530 RP (that's about $4).  You get 8 champs unlocked, a 4 win IP boost and a 10 win XP boost.  It's a pretty good deal (used it recently on an alt account).  You can find it in the game store under bundles.
  • Riot gives you 400 RP as soon as you hit level 5.  It's enough to buy some skins, a boost, or a cheap character. 
  • Learn to last hit!  Last hitting is simply landing the last hit on creeps.  If you last hit, you get gold for that kill.  The number of creeps you have killed is tracked in a value called CS.  You can see this number in the top right hand corner of the ui or by pressing tab.  Here's a really simple tutorial re: last hitting if you are brand new - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LheiRB76x5g
  • Read some guides on any character you want to try out.  The recommended builds (what you see when you go to a shop) are not optimal.  The guides include item suggestions and skill orders.  These are very useful in learning decent ways to build characters
  • Use the rune combiner to get level 3 runes prior to level 20 if you like.  You will need 375 IP.  Buy any tier 1 rune that costs 15 IP.  You need to purchase 25 of these.  Click on your rune page.  In the bottom right hand corner there is a button called the Rune Combiner.  If you place 5 runes in there, you can get a random rune that is 1 tier higher (eg if you have 5 tier 1 runes, you will get 1 random tier 2 rune.  Anyway, the math works out such that you spend 375 IP ( buy 25 tier 1 15 IP runes) and you get 1 completely random tier 3 rune.  Some of the quintessences are 2k IP, so if you luck out and get one of those, you just won the lottery.  You can always keep the random tier 2 rune if you end up with something good and don't want to trade it out yet.
  • Consider setting aside IP for tier 3 runes (available at level 20 and above).  You can't purchase them with real money - only IP.  Keep that in mind.

Great site I visit every day for LoL related news - http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends

pacov's misc info

Here's a guide I made

pacov's Guide to Improving at League of Legends and Moving Up in Elo

k - so I'm just going to put down some of my thoughts.  I'm not amazing at this game, but I do certain things that improve my odds of winning in ranked and so far its panning out just fine (bronze 5 to gold 5 in about a month or so).  We all have varied skill levels, so some of this might be useful and some not.  Caveat complete.

Prerequisite- you need to know how to play every single role.  You don't have to be a god at every single role (more power to you if you are - I'm certainly not).  You need to be able to play at a serviceable level in every single role and excel at least at 1 role (preferably 2).  In my case, I'm good at support and adc.  I'm not great, but have serviceable mids and jungles and so so tops.  Knowing what you are good at and bad at is very important.  If you don't know, I can probably tell you - but you really should know...  Anyway, you need to have enough champs to make solid picks in any role and you need to be able to cover any role if it comes down to it.  I'll talk about how to get better at specific roles in a bit.

Champ select advice - Don't be the "fill" guy unless you really feel like you are awesome in all roles.  Call your preferred role immediately when you hit the lobby.  Say "adc pref."  Do this as soon as you hit the lobby.  Some people believe that if you call a role you magically get it.  This is stupid, but if you call something out, folks will often accomodate your request.  If you are feeling wishy washy for whatever reason, call out multiple roles in order of what you want to play - "adc/mid pref."  In my experience, you generally do not want to call support.  It's a very important role, but you want to be in a position to carry every single game if possible.  If you aren't calling out a role, you are hoping that other players can carry you.  If you are hoping that folks will carry you, you don't deserve to win.  You need to know your best roles and you absolutely should request them.

Solo or duo in ranked? - Well, my 1st thought here is that you should solo.  If you solo, you have to rely on yourself.  IMO - its a much bigger test of skill to play solo and win than to duo.  Do you want someone to carry you or do you really want to know that you are actually good?  That said, provided you have the right duo partner, you can increase your odds of winning quite a bit.  The simple math is that instead of having 4 teammates as unknown quantities, you only have 3.  If you have a good duo teammate, you know what you can expect.  When you duo, you get the most bang for your buck by having complimentary roles.  Support/adc is good; jungle/mid also works.  Even if you don't have direct symmetry in roles, if you are an amazing mid and I'm an amazing adc, our odds go up quite a bit if we both get those roles.  Our odds go way down if we can't get those roles and are forced to play out of positions that we are weaker.  For example, Bryff is a good mid.  If he duo's up with me, the only way he will get to play that role is for me to call mid, take it myself, and then put myself into a position like support where I can't carry out of (I'm always 1st pick, Bryff is always last pick when we duo)... that and I have to show the mid I'm picking at the start which means Bryff gets hard countered.  In short, we can expect that we will be a disadvantage when duo queuing.  Now, if Bryff queued up with someone at a lower elo than himself that was solid, he'd likely be 1st pick and be able to get mid and have a better chance of carrying the game.  Anyway, you need to keep in mind where you end up in pick order when duoing if you aren't looking to go adc/support.  If you want that, you can usually get it. 

How do you get better in roles that you are not good at? - Well, here's what I do.  And this is really what I do on a regular basis.  I think about what I'm good at and what I'm not good at.  For instance, I realized that I don't play any hyper carry ads.  So, I read up on hyper carries like vayne and kog maw.  I look for guides on how to build them (most adcs are the same btw ), I look for vids on how people play them (eg how do I all in with a specific champ - is there a combo - when do I all in - what's the best way for me to burst - how should I behave in lane with this champ).  Then, I fire up a custom game and try out the mechanics of whatever champ vs AI.  Usually I learn a few tricks during that custom on how to position myself, etc.  Then, I'm off to normal games where I'll request the role or character I'm trying out.  Now, people still report your for being awful in normals, but it really is where you need to try out characters to see if you are any good or not as the bots are useless for proving your skill level to yourself.  So, fire up that normal and ask to play a role (again - after you've tried out the champ against bots).  If you don't know anyone you are with and you are quite awful, I suggest muting everyone at the start of the game.  Then, do your best.  Continue with this until you feel like you have a serviceable skill level in whatever role.  And keep in mind what you need to work on.  For me, I noticed I didn't really have alot of mids for ranked, so I started practicing some with gragas against and karth.  That way, I'll be able to get the job done if I need to play mid.  The next thing I need to do is put more time into being better top lane. Again, because while I prefer adc/support, I might need to play top for the team.  So, best to be ready for it.  Put your time in and practice roles. 

One last thought - there are certain things you can generally expect in ranked.  1 - if you are 1st pick, you generally can call whatever you want.  Common knowledge, I'm sure - but I'll add - CALL WHATEVER YOU WANT.  2 - if you duo queue, you generally can lock down both adc and support.  It works best if your adc is 1st pick, ofc.  I've bumped into like 10 random dedicated supports in all of my games of LoL.  People generally aren't going to call support. So, if you are 1st pick and duo'd, just call adc and then your duo partner can almost always get support.

 

Lol King profiles for ranked tracking

I'm not going to update this regularly, so just consider it a snapshot (I'll add a date when I update them).  Anyway, I enjoy seeing folks progress through ranked and keeping tabs on that sort of thing from time to time. 

Snapshot updated 05/28/2014

 Character guides

Mid Ziggs by cow - http://www.lolking.net/guides/7906

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on Apr 10, 2014


Hey guys I might take a little hiatus for a while.  As the MC part of this group will see: I've failed my candidacy again.  I have problems with not being included with things since forever in my life, so it's something that gets to me, strangely.  I'm just under the assumption people don't want me around, or I'm a negative impact in some way.  I just get stupid-sad over this type of stuff.  I'll catch you guys when I get over it.

-swan


Come play with me Swan! I am part of the forever alone club. We have t-shirts! I am always down for a game with swan unless I am in the I-am-only-playing-ranked-today-super-try-hard-mode of course.

on Apr 10, 2014

You can come play Hearthstone Swan.

Cow mostly beat me last night there.  Although my Hunter deck that drives Thunders into a rage held its own (when I wasn't making misplays - I shouldn't play that late at night), my experimental Mage deck got murdered.  I suppose I should put it back it its non bad form since that was bad, but that Mage deck never works too well even though I like it.

on Apr 10, 2014

Updated the OP.  Removed some old stuff... added a few things here and there

on Apr 11, 2014

Krazikarl

You can come play Hearthstone Swan.

Cow mostly beat me last night there.  Although my Hunter deck that drives Thunders into a rage held its own (when I wasn't making misplays - I shouldn't play that late at night), my experimental Mage deck got murdered.  I suppose I should put it back it its non bad form since that was bad, but that Mage deck never works too well even though I like it.

Rage doesn't describe the feelings that Hunter deck of yours bring out.  It's like... I want the world to end because it would mean the end of Karl's Hunter deck.  The destruction of everything, all life on this planet, it would totally be worth it if it meant Karl's Hunter deck would cease to exist as well.  That is the way I feel when he puts down a fucking vulture, then two fucking hyenas, then plays fucking release the fucking hounds.

 


Updated the OP.  Removed some old stuff... added a few things here and there

Awesome!

on Apr 11, 2014

i think you've got a mistake somewhere in your OP pacov.

It says that you're Silver I but you're actually Diamond V/IV. Better update that.

on Apr 12, 2014

Does it still say hedgie is a jerk?  I think I removed that, but something keeps updating that.   No idea.  Honestly   - hedgie... get forced to play support a bunch and let me know how well you carry crap around. 

Anyway - same strange thing is true - if I play ranked, I get a bunch more viewers on the quick.  Granted, that's mostly you folk, but the short version is that if I'm playing ranked, folks like watching more, longer.


Tonight was a masacre.  Game 1 - doing fine, but game is erased by network issues (I end up dc'ing in game for 5+ min - reload and game is no longer existing).  Game 2 - loss. Game 3 - loss.  Game 4 - kaceytron loss (eg only hope is completely awful enemy team).  Game 5- loss.  Game 6 - loss.

I'm back down to 0 lp in silver 1 (was 54 lp at start of night).  Was in the ban slot zero games tonight... most games 4/5 pick resulting in support crap. Got to jungle once (only amumu up as wu banned).  1 time top.  Died twice to 4 man ganks due to other lane failures (I could have flash lived one of those times).  We had a tank rengar jungle 1 game.  You know... because tanky assassin initiates are quite great. That was the game I got to trundle top... because... you know.. folks always go glass canon trundle because their jungle rengar's always go tank....

 

 

All said and done, was a pretty discouraging night.  I literally wanted 1 game with wu or at least 1 game without a dumbarse comp (I mean, rengar tank jungle.. really).  I get boobzilla on my team going tank syndra bot lane and refusing to communicate.  Pretty much a bummer.  I'll be playing more ranked soon, though.  Not a fan of this silver crap. 

on Apr 12, 2014

while my post had bad timing, i did actually post that right when you started ranked (or at least, when the stream started which was game #2).

i wouldn't have made the jab at you after the awful Kaceytron game in particular and i'm sorry it ended up happening on a rough day for you.

on Apr 12, 2014

Was my idea.  Saw you had put me down at the wrong rank right below you for giggles so I figured it might be funny if someone besides myself said something like this:

"Hey you've got someone down with the incorrect rank in your OP.  It should read that..." and you're thinking "Ah someone finally noticed!"  But then it's something else...

Trust me it would have seemed a lot more clever if it wasn't the Night Pacov Laned With Kaceytron, trust me!  Oh, and for the sake of posterity, Hedgie made it to Platinum last season playing primarily support.

Also, when you feel less frustrated, check out her stream to see if the game she played with you was saved.  I was watching the game through her stream with my GF and had a lot of things to explain about streaming culture and such.

When Kacey claimed that she was only doing badly because "My support Morgana is taking all my fucking CS!  Doesn't she know I'm the carry?  What the fuuuuuuuuuuuuck?!" and then stopped playing (which was probably overall good for your team) to read off the manifestos of people who donated to her stream for 5 minutes, I told my GF "Yeah, that's a pretty fair assessment."

 

Edit:  To see poor Kaceytron being trolled hard by baddies, fast forward to 1:20:00.  I believe at some point she announces her plans to start posting tier lists in the near future, so hopefully you're as pumped as I am.

http://www.twitch.tv/kaceytron/b/519057950

on Apr 12, 2014

Grouchy pacov is best pacov! 

re: kace - I don't think I need to check out anything on her stream.  She's a jackass.  I require no further proof. 

 

Anywho, rough night.  Was pretty pumped about playing ranked again. 

on Apr 12, 2014

Hey guys, thanks for the support and all... sorry I was just kind of just ignoring computer-things for a couple days in general to get it through my system.  I am gonna take a nap, and hope to catch up with some of you tonight.  

Hearthstone:  I'm not really competitive or good at the game... but I don't play a super-bunch either... if you wanna add me my ID is 1740.. and you can blame cow+hisroomate for my username

on Apr 14, 2014

Well, been working on jungle tryn tonight.  Decent results over all.  http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=pacov

Game 2 was slightly less effective, but had a better kda.  Game 1 was beast even with garbage kda.  100% dragon secured rate with me watching the timer like a hawk.  I just zip around the map pushing whatever and also get stacks in the jungle and counter jungle as well. 

Downside - playstyle is literally go fug yourself - i'm ww until I get my wriggles.  But.. that doesn't take long.  I've got it by about 6-7 min.  Then I go for a solo on drag as soon as I get the item (picking up a 2nd blue or red on the way).  You take sweeper, so you can clear and the timer isn't anything in particular so the enemy team hasn't been looking for it.  If you need to, you ult, but I've been managing his health well enough so its no big deal..

Running 21/9 -

 

 

on Apr 15, 2014

re: tryn - so, the only time I had an issue so far was when my team just absolutely threw in laning.  The timing (the way I'm doing it anyway) is really tight to make sure you have wriggles and a buff just before doing dragon.  If you do it right, you are in and out fairly safely.  I think tryn might be the best jungler for soloing dragon considering you can just ult and dash back over the wall if needed... and how fast he can clear it.  Anyway, now all I need is for everyone else to stop wanting to play jungle in ranked. 

on Apr 15, 2014

Well Bryff, Alex Ich played Kass in the 4.5 patch playoffs today. Alex is probably one of the best Kass players in the world, so you've got that.

 

He went Flask > Rod of Ages > Icebourne Gauntlet.

He grabbed Merc Treads because he was against Lulu. i think that Lucidity/Sorc Shoes are going to be better against people who don't have 2 second point-and-click CC.

on Apr 15, 2014

Continuing the tryn madness today.  Still pretty legit imo.  Close to a guaranteed loss if you have 2 lanes play like poop town.  Still kind of ok with just 1 fail lane.  If all things stay even, I own dragons and become very strong and can put the enemy jungler out of the game. 

on Apr 16, 2014

Debating the pros and cons of working again my aatrox with the new wriggles. 

On the con side, he's nowhere near as efficient at getting around the map as trynd (lower potential success rate a early solo dragons) - also would take longer to farm up wriggles. 

Pros - gank strength goes way up increasing pressure on all lanes (trynd has very low pressure on lanes early mid unless your laner has some decent hard cc increase the success rate on the gank.  That passive enables a suicide run gank early which you only really get out of zak/aatrox early - which you can typically use to get mid/top ahead if not bot early.  He still has ok split potential but no where near as trynd. 

I'm also not sure about building him the same way I do with trynd or going a more bruiser route.  Anyway, I'll probably give aatrox a go tonight and see how that goes. 

oh - and I got to play with more madcast folks than normal yesterday and it was pretty fun.

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