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Well, I started a thread  back in August (https://forums.joeuser.com/411269/) that's seen a lot of activity and actually had quite a few good bits of information for new and old players alike.  I figure it's time to start a new thread and perhaps keep the OP up-to-date with useful information, etc.  Feel free to use this post for any LoL discussion, etc.

Super fast background:  I played a lot of Demigod as pacov/cheesuscrust.  Back in August 2011 or so, I started getting heavily involved in LoL and folks have been kind enough to chime in with tips and links to various sites that have been quite useful to me.  In addition, I've been able to keep up with folks that I've played Demigod with in the past and meet some new folks that play LoL and frequent these message boards. 

Here's some of the things I've learned in the previous thread:

 New Player tips

  • Play the tutorial.
  • Consider picking up the starter bundle.  It's 530 RP (that's about $4).  You get 8 champs unlocked, a 4 win IP boost and a 10 win XP boost.  It's a pretty good deal (used it recently on an alt account).  You can find it in the game store under bundles.
  • Riot gives you 400 RP as soon as you hit level 5.  It's enough to buy some skins, a boost, or a cheap character. 
  • Learn to last hit!  Last hitting is simply landing the last hit on creeps.  If you last hit, you get gold for that kill.  The number of creeps you have killed is tracked in a value called CS.  You can see this number in the top right hand corner of the ui or by pressing tab.  Here's a really simple tutorial re: last hitting if you are brand new - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LheiRB76x5g
  • Read some guides on any character you want to try out.  The recommended builds (what you see when you go to a shop) are not optimal.  The guides include item suggestions and skill orders.  These are very useful in learning decent ways to build characters
  • Use the rune combiner to get level 3 runes prior to level 20 if you like.  You will need 375 IP.  Buy any tier 1 rune that costs 15 IP.  You need to purchase 25 of these.  Click on your rune page.  In the bottom right hand corner there is a button called the Rune Combiner.  If you place 5 runes in there, you can get a random rune that is 1 tier higher (eg if you have 5 tier 1 runes, you will get 1 random tier 2 rune.  Anyway, the math works out such that you spend 375 IP ( buy 25 tier 1 15 IP runes) and you get 1 completely random tier 3 rune.  Some of the quintessences are 2k IP, so if you luck out and get one of those, you just won the lottery.  You can always keep the random tier 2 rune if you end up with something good and don't want to trade it out yet.
  • Consider setting aside IP for tier 3 runes (available at level 20 and above).  You can't purchase them with real money - only IP.  Keep that in mind.

Great site I visit every day for LoL related news - http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends

pacov's misc info

Here's a guide I made

pacov's Guide to Improving at League of Legends and Moving Up in Elo

k - so I'm just going to put down some of my thoughts.  I'm not amazing at this game, but I do certain things that improve my odds of winning in ranked and so far its panning out just fine (bronze 5 to gold 5 in about a month or so).  We all have varied skill levels, so some of this might be useful and some not.  Caveat complete.

Prerequisite- you need to know how to play every single role.  You don't have to be a god at every single role (more power to you if you are - I'm certainly not).  You need to be able to play at a serviceable level in every single role and excel at least at 1 role (preferably 2).  In my case, I'm good at support and adc.  I'm not great, but have serviceable mids and jungles and so so tops.  Knowing what you are good at and bad at is very important.  If you don't know, I can probably tell you - but you really should know...  Anyway, you need to have enough champs to make solid picks in any role and you need to be able to cover any role if it comes down to it.  I'll talk about how to get better at specific roles in a bit.

Champ select advice - Don't be the "fill" guy unless you really feel like you are awesome in all roles.  Call your preferred role immediately when you hit the lobby.  Say "adc pref."  Do this as soon as you hit the lobby.  Some people believe that if you call a role you magically get it.  This is stupid, but if you call something out, folks will often accomodate your request.  If you are feeling wishy washy for whatever reason, call out multiple roles in order of what you want to play - "adc/mid pref."  In my experience, you generally do not want to call support.  It's a very important role, but you want to be in a position to carry every single game if possible.  If you aren't calling out a role, you are hoping that other players can carry you.  If you are hoping that folks will carry you, you don't deserve to win.  You need to know your best roles and you absolutely should request them.

Solo or duo in ranked? - Well, my 1st thought here is that you should solo.  If you solo, you have to rely on yourself.  IMO - its a much bigger test of skill to play solo and win than to duo.  Do you want someone to carry you or do you really want to know that you are actually good?  That said, provided you have the right duo partner, you can increase your odds of winning quite a bit.  The simple math is that instead of having 4 teammates as unknown quantities, you only have 3.  If you have a good duo teammate, you know what you can expect.  When you duo, you get the most bang for your buck by having complimentary roles.  Support/adc is good; jungle/mid also works.  Even if you don't have direct symmetry in roles, if you are an amazing mid and I'm an amazing adc, our odds go up quite a bit if we both get those roles.  Our odds go way down if we can't get those roles and are forced to play out of positions that we are weaker.  For example, Bryff is a good mid.  If he duo's up with me, the only way he will get to play that role is for me to call mid, take it myself, and then put myself into a position like support where I can't carry out of (I'm always 1st pick, Bryff is always last pick when we duo)... that and I have to show the mid I'm picking at the start which means Bryff gets hard countered.  In short, we can expect that we will be a disadvantage when duo queuing.  Now, if Bryff queued up with someone at a lower elo than himself that was solid, he'd likely be 1st pick and be able to get mid and have a better chance of carrying the game.  Anyway, you need to keep in mind where you end up in pick order when duoing if you aren't looking to go adc/support.  If you want that, you can usually get it. 

How do you get better in roles that you are not good at? - Well, here's what I do.  And this is really what I do on a regular basis.  I think about what I'm good at and what I'm not good at.  For instance, I realized that I don't play any hyper carry ads.  So, I read up on hyper carries like vayne and kog maw.  I look for guides on how to build them (most adcs are the same btw ), I look for vids on how people play them (eg how do I all in with a specific champ - is there a combo - when do I all in - what's the best way for me to burst - how should I behave in lane with this champ).  Then, I fire up a custom game and try out the mechanics of whatever champ vs AI.  Usually I learn a few tricks during that custom on how to position myself, etc.  Then, I'm off to normal games where I'll request the role or character I'm trying out.  Now, people still report your for being awful in normals, but it really is where you need to try out characters to see if you are any good or not as the bots are useless for proving your skill level to yourself.  So, fire up that normal and ask to play a role (again - after you've tried out the champ against bots).  If you don't know anyone you are with and you are quite awful, I suggest muting everyone at the start of the game.  Then, do your best.  Continue with this until you feel like you have a serviceable skill level in whatever role.  And keep in mind what you need to work on.  For me, I noticed I didn't really have alot of mids for ranked, so I started practicing some with gragas against and karth.  That way, I'll be able to get the job done if I need to play mid.  The next thing I need to do is put more time into being better top lane. Again, because while I prefer adc/support, I might need to play top for the team.  So, best to be ready for it.  Put your time in and practice roles. 

One last thought - there are certain things you can generally expect in ranked.  1 - if you are 1st pick, you generally can call whatever you want.  Common knowledge, I'm sure - but I'll add - CALL WHATEVER YOU WANT.  2 - if you duo queue, you generally can lock down both adc and support.  It works best if your adc is 1st pick, ofc.  I've bumped into like 10 random dedicated supports in all of my games of LoL.  People generally aren't going to call support. So, if you are 1st pick and duo'd, just call adc and then your duo partner can almost always get support.

 

Lol King profiles for ranked tracking

I'm not going to update this regularly, so just consider it a snapshot (I'll add a date when I update them).  Anyway, I enjoy seeing folks progress through ranked and keeping tabs on that sort of thing from time to time. 

Snapshot updated 05/28/2014

 Character guides

Mid Ziggs by cow - http://www.lolking.net/guides/7906

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on May 06, 2012

It turns out that I have problems playing champs I'm not very good with when I'm a little bit buzzed.  Plus, the other team was being mean that last game.

on May 07, 2012

OK fellas - so 8:15PM EST on Tuesday (tomorrow 5/8/2012).  Pretty sure everyone is down for this, but reply here asap if anyone has issues meeting then?  I figure we'll try to get about 2 games in if everyone is available and then we can discuss if we'll do a repeat on Thursday.  Do your best to show up on time or a smidge early as we need the full team before we get started. 

We can either immediately create a team and play ranked or do some draft mode normals to get a feel for how we all play together.

on May 07, 2012

I must be a far worse player than I thought I was...

I'm on a ranked losing spree and I'm at 1109 ELO...

I get fed in-lane and I come out of every game with a positive KD ratio

but we still lose

I used to think that it was my team's fault

but it might be MY fault

ooooooooooh

I would like some serious help, as my ranked losing spree is rather hurtful.

 

I've nearly fixed my bad positioning problem..

but I was in a ranked game as a 8/4/12 Ahri

and it was awfully annoying to be flamed by a 7/17/6 Sion who is complaining that I am not committing to fights when they do...

I'm getting kills and focusing people in teamfights, but I'm not initiating; am I supposed to do that?

is there anyone on this thread who can play Ahri well?

I can lane easily with her, but late game I just fail 100% of the time...

do you dash into fights?

or hang back?

I've done both and still had no luck...

 

I've also had good and bad luck as support Taric...

I've helped a Miss Fortune get super fed (she got a penta in our ranked game) and I've helped a Caitlyn die a lot...

are there any support champs who are far better at low ELO games?

on May 07, 2012

basically

TL:DR

I'm unsure if my ranked losing spree is my fault or not

I would like a ranked "coach"

not necessarily a duo queue partner

on May 07, 2012

KrdaxDrkrun
I'm getting kills and focusing people in teamfights, but I'm not initiating; am I supposed to do that?

well, depending on the team comp, taking a shot at your charm to initiate isn't a terrible idea.  With your ult up, you should be able to pick off most players if they do anything even remotely stupid when they group up (hop in, charm, hop away as needed while your team pounces).  Other than that, no great ideas.  I play an ok ahri, but nothing I'd take a shot at in a ranked. 

re: support - I'm getting more into playing the bruiser type supports and am already pretty solid with taric/janna.  I don't think any one particular support is the best.  It's really matchups.  That said, janna is pretty solid in most match ups.  Leona is nice as a hard counter to the non bruiser supports (very good vs janna/soraka at least).  As long as your ranged ad carry is on top of things, leona can just tear things up to secure kills or just zone the crap out of the enemy.  Leona falls off a bit vs other tanky supports, though. 

on May 07, 2012

KrdaxDrkrun

I would like a ranked "coach"

friend me in game.  "masck"

 

on May 07, 2012

That's probably why I am so bad with Ahri

I try to land a charm and I die because I got too close

or I miss completely

so generally I try not to stretch too far to land them

on May 07, 2012

oh

Something else that I have come across

 

I've started playing Twisted Fate and cleaning up games with him

and I am wondering if it is a good idea to go for CDR boots rather than Mpen boots...

Not sure, but his low cooldowns and peculiar lane sustain would seem to synergize better with CDR boots...

just a thought

 

I added you. I am KrdaxDrkrun

Thanks!

on May 07, 2012

One of the biggest things about low elo mid champs: It's not enough to win your lane if you want to climb out.  You need to win top or bot as well, or constantly invade jungle.  This means picking a champ that can easily clear a wave of minions, and then quickly roam to another lane and pick up kills.  The way I climbed up through my first few ranked games on this account was to run ap Sion mid.  Rush mobility boots first, clear your wave quickly w/ shield, and go gank w/ super speed and an easy stun.  Just make sure you're back in lane by the time the next creep wave hits your tower.

on May 07, 2012

Twisted Fate seems to also hold the role of a roamer

I've won the only ranked game I've played...

 

Yes

I guess I've noticed that roaming contributes to wins...

I main Viktor, and I clear a wave instantly and then I go top and camp, stun, lazor, and ult them to death. I have a higher win % with Viktor than any other champ in ranked games...

going bot has gone badly as I've facechecked into a jungler and died...

on May 07, 2012

its official, I'm death with karthus....... I have the guys I play with on skype yelling for me to get xerath or karthus, but mostly karthus, because I can easily break a losing team fight.

on May 07, 2012

@Krdax

KD ratio... can be an overrated stat if you ask me.

Had a game the other day with Hedgie and another pal where I was support for a decent Kog.  By the end of the game he was carrying us to a win but with a hell of an attitude.  Talking about how he was the only one with a positive KD ratio which made him the best player and all that good stuff.

Maybe he was, I don't know... just didn't sit well when I was thinking to myself about that time we pushed too far and were ganked by Lee Sin and I made sure Kog lived through it instead of just saving myself. Or the couple of 1 for 1 exchanges I happily made to take out their carry and leave their support crippled and Kog free to farm.  Or all the team fights that Hedgie and I made keeping Kog alive our highest priority.

on May 07, 2012

re: KD ratio - agreed.   I saw a video from a 2100+ player where he had a great commentary going about a game he was in.  They had a solo top udyr that was just playing like rot.  He had like 1 kill.  Then like 7 deaths and no assists.  He was pretty much feeding his lane.  Well, all of his teammates, including the guy making the commentary, were tearing the guy a new one.  The guy that was fing up kept his mouth shut.  He then began to do amazing things, all while still dying.  He knew that he was at a point where he was worth like next to gold.  So, what does this guy do?  He does his best to farm and push lanes, he forces the other team to commit at least 1 guy to him to keep him from getting objectives.  He farms up a gets a super tanky kit.  He baits the other  team left and right to setup traps.  He moves in and out of combat stunning folks.  In short, while he was absolute rot with his k/d ratio, he was spot on with tactics and strategy based on his situation.  And he carried his team to a victory. 

First Blood: 400 gold
1st kill: 300 gold 1st death: 300 gold
2nd kill: 330 gold 2nd death: 273 gold
3rd kill: 363 gold (Killing spree) 3rd death: 216 gold
4th kill: 399 gold (Rampage) 4th death: 170 gold
5th kill: 439 gold (Unstoppable) 5th death: 135 gold
6th kill: 483 gold (Dominating) 6th death: 106 gold
7th kill: 500 gold (Godlike) 7th death: 84 gold
8th kill: 500 gold (Legendary) 8th death: 66 gold
9+ kills: 600 gold (Legendary) 9th death: 52 gold

At 7 deaths with no kills to back it, he's made the top lane valuable if his team kills him.  And every death of his results in like 70ish gold going to the enemy late game (like 3 cs). 

on May 07, 2012

KrdaxDrkrun
Twisted Fate seems to also hold the role of a roamer

I've won the only ranked game I've played...

 

Yes

I guess I've noticed that roaming contributes to wins...

I main Viktor, and I clear a wave instantly and then I go top and camp, stun, lazor, and ult them to death. I have a higher win % with Viktor than any other champ in ranked games...

going bot has gone badly as I've facechecked into a jungler and died...

 

TF is currently probably the strongest champion in solo queue.  He is just too strong in the midgame, and most teams dont know how to deal with it.

on May 07, 2012

thanks for the constructive comments!

I'll try to make the most of them in-game...

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