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Well, I started a thread  back in August (https://forums.joeuser.com/411269/) that's seen a lot of activity and actually had quite a few good bits of information for new and old players alike.  I figure it's time to start a new thread and perhaps keep the OP up-to-date with useful information, etc.  Feel free to use this post for any LoL discussion, etc.

Super fast background:  I played a lot of Demigod as pacov/cheesuscrust.  Back in August 2011 or so, I started getting heavily involved in LoL and folks have been kind enough to chime in with tips and links to various sites that have been quite useful to me.  In addition, I've been able to keep up with folks that I've played Demigod with in the past and meet some new folks that play LoL and frequent these message boards. 

Here's some of the things I've learned in the previous thread:

 New Player tips

  • Play the tutorial.
  • Consider picking up the starter bundle.  It's 530 RP (that's about $4).  You get 8 champs unlocked, a 4 win IP boost and a 10 win XP boost.  It's a pretty good deal (used it recently on an alt account).  You can find it in the game store under bundles.
  • Riot gives you 400 RP as soon as you hit level 5.  It's enough to buy some skins, a boost, or a cheap character. 
  • Learn to last hit!  Last hitting is simply landing the last hit on creeps.  If you last hit, you get gold for that kill.  The number of creeps you have killed is tracked in a value called CS.  You can see this number in the top right hand corner of the ui or by pressing tab.  Here's a really simple tutorial re: last hitting if you are brand new - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LheiRB76x5g
  • Read some guides on any character you want to try out.  The recommended builds (what you see when you go to a shop) are not optimal.  The guides include item suggestions and skill orders.  These are very useful in learning decent ways to build characters
  • Use the rune combiner to get level 3 runes prior to level 20 if you like.  You will need 375 IP.  Buy any tier 1 rune that costs 15 IP.  You need to purchase 25 of these.  Click on your rune page.  In the bottom right hand corner there is a button called the Rune Combiner.  If you place 5 runes in there, you can get a random rune that is 1 tier higher (eg if you have 5 tier 1 runes, you will get 1 random tier 2 rune.  Anyway, the math works out such that you spend 375 IP ( buy 25 tier 1 15 IP runes) and you get 1 completely random tier 3 rune.  Some of the quintessences are 2k IP, so if you luck out and get one of those, you just won the lottery.  You can always keep the random tier 2 rune if you end up with something good and don't want to trade it out yet.
  • Consider setting aside IP for tier 3 runes (available at level 20 and above).  You can't purchase them with real money - only IP.  Keep that in mind.

Great site I visit every day for LoL related news - http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends

pacov's misc info

Here's a guide I made

pacov's Guide to Improving at League of Legends and Moving Up in Elo

k - so I'm just going to put down some of my thoughts.  I'm not amazing at this game, but I do certain things that improve my odds of winning in ranked and so far its panning out just fine (bronze 5 to gold 5 in about a month or so).  We all have varied skill levels, so some of this might be useful and some not.  Caveat complete.

Prerequisite- you need to know how to play every single role.  You don't have to be a god at every single role (more power to you if you are - I'm certainly not).  You need to be able to play at a serviceable level in every single role and excel at least at 1 role (preferably 2).  In my case, I'm good at support and adc.  I'm not great, but have serviceable mids and jungles and so so tops.  Knowing what you are good at and bad at is very important.  If you don't know, I can probably tell you - but you really should know...  Anyway, you need to have enough champs to make solid picks in any role and you need to be able to cover any role if it comes down to it.  I'll talk about how to get better at specific roles in a bit.

Champ select advice - Don't be the "fill" guy unless you really feel like you are awesome in all roles.  Call your preferred role immediately when you hit the lobby.  Say "adc pref."  Do this as soon as you hit the lobby.  Some people believe that if you call a role you magically get it.  This is stupid, but if you call something out, folks will often accomodate your request.  If you are feeling wishy washy for whatever reason, call out multiple roles in order of what you want to play - "adc/mid pref."  In my experience, you generally do not want to call support.  It's a very important role, but you want to be in a position to carry every single game if possible.  If you aren't calling out a role, you are hoping that other players can carry you.  If you are hoping that folks will carry you, you don't deserve to win.  You need to know your best roles and you absolutely should request them.

Solo or duo in ranked? - Well, my 1st thought here is that you should solo.  If you solo, you have to rely on yourself.  IMO - its a much bigger test of skill to play solo and win than to duo.  Do you want someone to carry you or do you really want to know that you are actually good?  That said, provided you have the right duo partner, you can increase your odds of winning quite a bit.  The simple math is that instead of having 4 teammates as unknown quantities, you only have 3.  If you have a good duo teammate, you know what you can expect.  When you duo, you get the most bang for your buck by having complimentary roles.  Support/adc is good; jungle/mid also works.  Even if you don't have direct symmetry in roles, if you are an amazing mid and I'm an amazing adc, our odds go up quite a bit if we both get those roles.  Our odds go way down if we can't get those roles and are forced to play out of positions that we are weaker.  For example, Bryff is a good mid.  If he duo's up with me, the only way he will get to play that role is for me to call mid, take it myself, and then put myself into a position like support where I can't carry out of (I'm always 1st pick, Bryff is always last pick when we duo)... that and I have to show the mid I'm picking at the start which means Bryff gets hard countered.  In short, we can expect that we will be a disadvantage when duo queuing.  Now, if Bryff queued up with someone at a lower elo than himself that was solid, he'd likely be 1st pick and be able to get mid and have a better chance of carrying the game.  Anyway, you need to keep in mind where you end up in pick order when duoing if you aren't looking to go adc/support.  If you want that, you can usually get it. 

How do you get better in roles that you are not good at? - Well, here's what I do.  And this is really what I do on a regular basis.  I think about what I'm good at and what I'm not good at.  For instance, I realized that I don't play any hyper carry ads.  So, I read up on hyper carries like vayne and kog maw.  I look for guides on how to build them (most adcs are the same btw ), I look for vids on how people play them (eg how do I all in with a specific champ - is there a combo - when do I all in - what's the best way for me to burst - how should I behave in lane with this champ).  Then, I fire up a custom game and try out the mechanics of whatever champ vs AI.  Usually I learn a few tricks during that custom on how to position myself, etc.  Then, I'm off to normal games where I'll request the role or character I'm trying out.  Now, people still report your for being awful in normals, but it really is where you need to try out characters to see if you are any good or not as the bots are useless for proving your skill level to yourself.  So, fire up that normal and ask to play a role (again - after you've tried out the champ against bots).  If you don't know anyone you are with and you are quite awful, I suggest muting everyone at the start of the game.  Then, do your best.  Continue with this until you feel like you have a serviceable skill level in whatever role.  And keep in mind what you need to work on.  For me, I noticed I didn't really have alot of mids for ranked, so I started practicing some with gragas against and karth.  That way, I'll be able to get the job done if I need to play mid.  The next thing I need to do is put more time into being better top lane. Again, because while I prefer adc/support, I might need to play top for the team.  So, best to be ready for it.  Put your time in and practice roles. 

One last thought - there are certain things you can generally expect in ranked.  1 - if you are 1st pick, you generally can call whatever you want.  Common knowledge, I'm sure - but I'll add - CALL WHATEVER YOU WANT.  2 - if you duo queue, you generally can lock down both adc and support.  It works best if your adc is 1st pick, ofc.  I've bumped into like 10 random dedicated supports in all of my games of LoL.  People generally aren't going to call support. So, if you are 1st pick and duo'd, just call adc and then your duo partner can almost always get support.

 

Lol King profiles for ranked tracking

I'm not going to update this regularly, so just consider it a snapshot (I'll add a date when I update them).  Anyway, I enjoy seeing folks progress through ranked and keeping tabs on that sort of thing from time to time. 

Snapshot updated 05/28/2014

 Character guides

Mid Ziggs by cow - http://www.lolking.net/guides/7906

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on Jun 05, 2012

thx for the games tonight, fellas.  We weren't able to get everyone in, but hopefully we get enough next time for multiple games.  I'll provide some feedback later.  In the meantime - I want you to think about the number 872 and tell me what that means to you. 

on Jun 05, 2012

so.. watch this... and... try not to think... things

 

on Jun 06, 2012

Is that a guy or a girl...?

okay then...

 

Got a bunch of games in with PeterDumpTruck and Maccilia...

First game:

Peter: Ashe

Me: Amumu

Mac: Leona

Loss

Peter had a bunch of DCs as Ashe...

I got fed playing jungle Amumu but my team could not support my initiations... GG

Second Game:

Peter: Malzahar

Me: Ezreal

Mac: Leona

Loss

Probably my fault...

Peter told me to go mid, where we though Karthus was going...

Much to our chagrin Mordekaiser was there...

I could not damage him but I managed to get a ton of farm in...

(finished 0/2/5 with the most farm on our team)

Morde was killing us all. GG

Third Game:

Peter: Malzahar

Me: Ashe

Mac: Leona

Win

me, Mac, and a random Shaco slaughtered bot lane.

I finished 5/0/9 and Mac finished 1/0/10

Mac did very well against the enemy Kassadin and managed to kill him quite a few times, a feat I am rather impressed with...

I outcarried the enemy Miss Fortune no problem. GG

on Jun 06, 2012

Thx for the recap.  I'm glad pete added you as a pal and you got to play some games with the fellas.  Pete's pretty good like that.  He also has a really funny pattern of trying a diff character, getting killed alot, then always going back to malz the next game.  He's pretty much like clock work. 

on Jun 06, 2012

kinda stupid, but here you go anyway:

on Jun 06, 2012

Updated the OP with a link to reddit.  I check that site multiple times a day for the latest lol news, etc.  Great site and I highly recommend.

 

http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends

 

on Jun 07, 2012

Its like all of the 500 elo players came out to play today. Haven't had a single match where my team did well. 10 games full of complete bads. I even had a Kassadin with 3 RoA's...

on Jun 07, 2012

The trick with RoA is to wait until the very end of the game and buy 4 of them (pro tip). 

OK - so tonight is ranked team game night at 8:15PM EST.  I honestly have no idea who is going to show up, so we'll do this by the seat of our pants yet again.  Let me know asap if you are no planning on attending.  Vlad - if you want an official spot on our team and can make it one night a week (thursdays) starting at 8:15PM EST, you've got it.  Anyway, we'll see who's on at 8:15 and see if we can get some ranked going.

on Jun 07, 2012

What the what?  Political machine has a league team?  Or do I not understand how this forum works? If you guys are bored/ need an extra player... go ahead and add me.  My current account/summoner name is 'Sprklsrfnky'  By the way... on the header post it states tier 3 runes are available at level 30.  However, they have always been available at level 20, but you do not have all of the rune spots available in your rune pages until 30.  

on Jun 07, 2012

I'll see about updating the op.  what role do u play in lol best?  I'll add you as a pal

on Jun 07, 2012

I don't know if I will be on tonight or not. Really long losing streak today and yesterday lol.

on Jun 07, 2012

Oh i can play pretty much anybody/everything.  I've been on since beta, but this account is much newer (like end of season 1).  There are some champs I'm not the best with, but I stay away from them (vlad, xin, j4, renekton).  I usually end up jungling or supporting because none of my roomates like to haha.  I've been kind of under-practiced lately as an AP mid, but I do well when called upon.  Personally,  I do well as a jungle tank, but sometimes that's not what's needed.  I do o.k. as an AD carry, usually come from behind though... my last hitting meta as an AD is kind of sub-par due to my less-than stellar laptop, but yeah... If you need a filler, ever... I'm all aboard.

on Jun 07, 2012

OK, Koskee, I'll add you as a pal when I'm off work - I'm pacov in LoL - feel free to add me now if you like instead.  I'm really not sure who we've got available tonight for our ranked game, but we might be able to get you in if you are on around 8:15PM EST and available.  So - tonight's going to be pretty much wait and see. 

Oh - and its not a political machine team, per se.  Stardock just has several of their websites setup in such a way that posts from multiple forums show up everyone.  I think the majority of us are from the Demigod forums originally. 

on Jun 07, 2012

Ah ok.  Yeah I'll add you, but I won't be on tonight... I have to work.  Lol our accounts are very similar... as far as wins and elo are concerned.

on Jun 07, 2012

The first real news regarding the stealth update from riot.

 

Morello
This is fair, but we still have to be careful with this - if everyone wanted to have a reasonable dialog or it was a smaller group, this approach would be sucessful, I agree.

I'm going to burn for this, but WTH....

I can say I have "signed off" on the design of it, but particle/anims/production has to still be done. The design is in numbers tweaking, but mostly it's about making it read well. I think they're both fun, but the "jump out from invisible and own you" is, as designed, gone on Eve. That element is what made us do this in the first place.

I have a feeling this will come back to haunt me even if it gets released when I want it to. I will be giving a detailed look when it's 99% locked (still a few details to make sure we test more).

http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?p=25069868#25069868

 

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