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Well, I started a thread  back in August (https://forums.joeuser.com/411269/) that's seen a lot of activity and actually had quite a few good bits of information for new and old players alike.  I figure it's time to start a new thread and perhaps keep the OP up-to-date with useful information, etc.  Feel free to use this post for any LoL discussion, etc.

Super fast background:  I played a lot of Demigod as pacov/cheesuscrust.  Back in August 2011 or so, I started getting heavily involved in LoL and folks have been kind enough to chime in with tips and links to various sites that have been quite useful to me.  In addition, I've been able to keep up with folks that I've played Demigod with in the past and meet some new folks that play LoL and frequent these message boards. 

Here's some of the things I've learned in the previous thread:

 New Player tips

  • Play the tutorial.
  • Consider picking up the starter bundle.  It's 530 RP (that's about $4).  You get 8 champs unlocked, a 4 win IP boost and a 10 win XP boost.  It's a pretty good deal (used it recently on an alt account).  You can find it in the game store under bundles.
  • Riot gives you 400 RP as soon as you hit level 5.  It's enough to buy some skins, a boost, or a cheap character. 
  • Learn to last hit!  Last hitting is simply landing the last hit on creeps.  If you last hit, you get gold for that kill.  The number of creeps you have killed is tracked in a value called CS.  You can see this number in the top right hand corner of the ui or by pressing tab.  Here's a really simple tutorial re: last hitting if you are brand new - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LheiRB76x5g
  • Read some guides on any character you want to try out.  The recommended builds (what you see when you go to a shop) are not optimal.  The guides include item suggestions and skill orders.  These are very useful in learning decent ways to build characters
  • Use the rune combiner to get level 3 runes prior to level 20 if you like.  You will need 375 IP.  Buy any tier 1 rune that costs 15 IP.  You need to purchase 25 of these.  Click on your rune page.  In the bottom right hand corner there is a button called the Rune Combiner.  If you place 5 runes in there, you can get a random rune that is 1 tier higher (eg if you have 5 tier 1 runes, you will get 1 random tier 2 rune.  Anyway, the math works out such that you spend 375 IP ( buy 25 tier 1 15 IP runes) and you get 1 completely random tier 3 rune.  Some of the quintessences are 2k IP, so if you luck out and get one of those, you just won the lottery.  You can always keep the random tier 2 rune if you end up with something good and don't want to trade it out yet.
  • Consider setting aside IP for tier 3 runes (available at level 20 and above).  You can't purchase them with real money - only IP.  Keep that in mind.

Great site I visit every day for LoL related news - http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends

pacov's misc info

Here's a guide I made

pacov's Guide to Improving at League of Legends and Moving Up in Elo

k - so I'm just going to put down some of my thoughts.  I'm not amazing at this game, but I do certain things that improve my odds of winning in ranked and so far its panning out just fine (bronze 5 to gold 5 in about a month or so).  We all have varied skill levels, so some of this might be useful and some not.  Caveat complete.

Prerequisite- you need to know how to play every single role.  You don't have to be a god at every single role (more power to you if you are - I'm certainly not).  You need to be able to play at a serviceable level in every single role and excel at least at 1 role (preferably 2).  In my case, I'm good at support and adc.  I'm not great, but have serviceable mids and jungles and so so tops.  Knowing what you are good at and bad at is very important.  If you don't know, I can probably tell you - but you really should know...  Anyway, you need to have enough champs to make solid picks in any role and you need to be able to cover any role if it comes down to it.  I'll talk about how to get better at specific roles in a bit.

Champ select advice - Don't be the "fill" guy unless you really feel like you are awesome in all roles.  Call your preferred role immediately when you hit the lobby.  Say "adc pref."  Do this as soon as you hit the lobby.  Some people believe that if you call a role you magically get it.  This is stupid, but if you call something out, folks will often accomodate your request.  If you are feeling wishy washy for whatever reason, call out multiple roles in order of what you want to play - "adc/mid pref."  In my experience, you generally do not want to call support.  It's a very important role, but you want to be in a position to carry every single game if possible.  If you aren't calling out a role, you are hoping that other players can carry you.  If you are hoping that folks will carry you, you don't deserve to win.  You need to know your best roles and you absolutely should request them.

Solo or duo in ranked? - Well, my 1st thought here is that you should solo.  If you solo, you have to rely on yourself.  IMO - its a much bigger test of skill to play solo and win than to duo.  Do you want someone to carry you or do you really want to know that you are actually good?  That said, provided you have the right duo partner, you can increase your odds of winning quite a bit.  The simple math is that instead of having 4 teammates as unknown quantities, you only have 3.  If you have a good duo teammate, you know what you can expect.  When you duo, you get the most bang for your buck by having complimentary roles.  Support/adc is good; jungle/mid also works.  Even if you don't have direct symmetry in roles, if you are an amazing mid and I'm an amazing adc, our odds go up quite a bit if we both get those roles.  Our odds go way down if we can't get those roles and are forced to play out of positions that we are weaker.  For example, Bryff is a good mid.  If he duo's up with me, the only way he will get to play that role is for me to call mid, take it myself, and then put myself into a position like support where I can't carry out of (I'm always 1st pick, Bryff is always last pick when we duo)... that and I have to show the mid I'm picking at the start which means Bryff gets hard countered.  In short, we can expect that we will be a disadvantage when duo queuing.  Now, if Bryff queued up with someone at a lower elo than himself that was solid, he'd likely be 1st pick and be able to get mid and have a better chance of carrying the game.  Anyway, you need to keep in mind where you end up in pick order when duoing if you aren't looking to go adc/support.  If you want that, you can usually get it. 

How do you get better in roles that you are not good at? - Well, here's what I do.  And this is really what I do on a regular basis.  I think about what I'm good at and what I'm not good at.  For instance, I realized that I don't play any hyper carry ads.  So, I read up on hyper carries like vayne and kog maw.  I look for guides on how to build them (most adcs are the same btw ), I look for vids on how people play them (eg how do I all in with a specific champ - is there a combo - when do I all in - what's the best way for me to burst - how should I behave in lane with this champ).  Then, I fire up a custom game and try out the mechanics of whatever champ vs AI.  Usually I learn a few tricks during that custom on how to position myself, etc.  Then, I'm off to normal games where I'll request the role or character I'm trying out.  Now, people still report your for being awful in normals, but it really is where you need to try out characters to see if you are any good or not as the bots are useless for proving your skill level to yourself.  So, fire up that normal and ask to play a role (again - after you've tried out the champ against bots).  If you don't know anyone you are with and you are quite awful, I suggest muting everyone at the start of the game.  Then, do your best.  Continue with this until you feel like you have a serviceable skill level in whatever role.  And keep in mind what you need to work on.  For me, I noticed I didn't really have alot of mids for ranked, so I started practicing some with gragas against and karth.  That way, I'll be able to get the job done if I need to play mid.  The next thing I need to do is put more time into being better top lane. Again, because while I prefer adc/support, I might need to play top for the team.  So, best to be ready for it.  Put your time in and practice roles. 

One last thought - there are certain things you can generally expect in ranked.  1 - if you are 1st pick, you generally can call whatever you want.  Common knowledge, I'm sure - but I'll add - CALL WHATEVER YOU WANT.  2 - if you duo queue, you generally can lock down both adc and support.  It works best if your adc is 1st pick, ofc.  I've bumped into like 10 random dedicated supports in all of my games of LoL.  People generally aren't going to call support. So, if you are 1st pick and duo'd, just call adc and then your duo partner can almost always get support.

 

Lol King profiles for ranked tracking

I'm not going to update this regularly, so just consider it a snapshot (I'll add a date when I update them).  Anyway, I enjoy seeing folks progress through ranked and keeping tabs on that sort of thing from time to time. 

Snapshot updated 05/28/2014

 Character guides

Mid Ziggs by cow - http://www.lolking.net/guides/7906

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on Jun 08, 2012

well... tonight was special or something.  OK.  So the ranked team thing isn't going to work.  We do have 3 pretty dedicated core players, but every week its pretty much me trying to pull folks off the bench.  Frankly, the 3 of us are pretty passionate, but there isn't much symmetry between the 3 of us on top of that. I'll go into a little detail.

Karl

  • Karl is pretty much a dedicated jungle player.  He can work pretty well with me as an ad carry with me as an aggressive support, though.  But - his passion is really to jungle.  Karl's not great as a top laner, but is serviceable and I assume he does not have a good mid (don't know if I've ever even seen him play mid and we've played a few games together).  He can play a serviceable support in ranked as needed.

Pacov

  • I play as mid for the team.  I shouldn't play mid because I'm not really good at it and I don't typically play normals as a mid (eg I don't practice it).  I can certainly hold my own, but I do not excel at that role.  What I'm actually good at is aggressive supports and the support role.  I also feel like I'm becoming a pretty solid top laner and often play that in normals.  But I don't think I'm at the same level as rawr (when he was on the team) and shane as a top laner.  I do feel like my biggest strength is in the aggressive support arena

The dude II

  • The dude plays as standard support for the team.  He does a good job at it, but does not play any bruiser supports.  In my magic, perfect world, I see him playing the non bruisers as a support all the time while I take up the bruiser support role.  I can play the passive supports, but I don't think I'm as good at it as him.  BUT - that doesn't really work as he does not have a good mid game (to swap with me).  I don't believe he has a good ranged ad carry but don't remember tbh.  He can play a serviceable top lane, but I'm not sure if he can roll with many champs in that role (for instance, tonight when I went leona/trist with karl bot, he went shen top - he played his role really well, but some extra dmg output would be more valuable when I'm already playing a tanky support - I think he could work top if we could come up with  better team selection).  I think he has a serviceable jungle game, but I haven't seen him do that in a bit. 

Alternates/Old team members - honestly, we really hit some solid gold here.. but its not sustainable sadly.  We had rawr - 1800 avg ranked elo.  He was a great top and lead.  We had shane - he filled into that top role very well.  Zen was a little rusty as a ranged ad carry, but he could get the job done and would have excelled if we had him for longer.  Vlad - He seems to shine the most as a ranged ad carry playing graves.  pacov likes the idea of leona graves.  He can also cover other roles, but imo is best as a ranged ad carry.  DaBrum - well, he did show up the one night everyone else flaked out a bit.  I don't think we'll end up playing with him tbh and have no idea of skill set. 

Anyway, the 3 of us need to make some adjustments if we are actually looking to work a serious team.  Granted, we need 5 people to do this, but oh well.  Based on our strengths (and just evaluating us as a team of 3), I think we need to change to putting karl as ranged ad, me as bruiser support, and the dude at either jungle or solo top.  Honestly, I think that combo would give us the best possible potential for wins.  Frankly, the biggest problem, imo, is me at mid. We could very well go with me solo top, karl jungle, and the dude as support, but I think I shine the most as bruiser support and have the best odds of supporting in a kill lane. 

Anyway, I think we should discuss this a bit and get some feedback.  Then I think we should actively recruit for specific roles.  I'll say this now, though - we need a better mid than me. 

on Jun 08, 2012

Recap of last night's normal game in which I played:

Win

Dude: Shen

Pacov: Leona

Karl: Tristana

Me: Viktor

Paint: Nocturne

 

The game started out poorly, with me being caught out twice by their Lee Sin...

As such, he got fed and started owning Dude and Paint.

Fortunately for us, bot lane started scaling out of control with Karl getting ridiculously farmed and raking in quite a few kills.

We won the next team fight with a professional initiation from Pacov and Dude, and Karl's high damage.

Karl was the enemy team's focus in succeeding team fights, and as such we were hard-pressed to keep him alive.

I managed to get well-farmed enough to deal massive damage... (To the point that I almost solo-killed their full-health Alistar when he came to interrupt my recall, he ran away, the wuss)

Paint managed to hang in there and follow up our initiations, and after another perfect initiation in their base and a Triple-kill ult from me, it was GG.

on Jun 09, 2012

ARAM map coming for custom games in the next patch - playable on the PBE now.  See vid for quick walkthough

on Jun 10, 2012

about 5 min away from clg/dignitas

http://www.majorleaguegaming.com/live#lol

 

on Jun 11, 2012

3 ranked games last night - all 3 as support Leona.  1 win, 2 losses. 

Game 1 - we have 2 folks in pre game chat - one at the bottom says "I'm Pro top."  The guy in the 2nd slot picks top.  Guy at the bottom grumbles, but goes jungle.  Guy top plays like a complete tard.  Jungle guy whines and busts his balls (he's "Pro top" after all).  Between our mid, our jungler, and our top, they are feeding like complete idiots.  However, I actually have a good ranged ad carry.  We utterly dominate killing anyone that comes to our lane... over and over.  I try to remind the guys bitching at each other that we are crushing bot and to just take it easy, don't bitch each other out, and that we will easily carry.  Well, my teammates do their best to continue to be awful and succeed.  Managed to give up baron like 2 times no less because our ap carries fav thing to do was go at 4 of them solo for no reason.  Anyway, ranged ad carry and I manage to carry the team.  Guy was in perfect sync with me and let me dictate the flow of the bot lane with my initiates.  He was completely spot on and there every single time I'd make a play.  Wish I'd have thought to add the fellow as a play for some duo queing - have to go back and look him up.

Game 2 - Don't even remember too much about this one.  I did my part, but my carry wasn't all that strong and the rest of the team was kinda meh.  Don't think I could have played any better than I did - just didn't happen.

Game 3 - rage inducing game.  I'm laned bot with an ash... an extremely passive to the point of being useless ash.  To the point where there was pretty much no time that I could initiate and she'd even be able to follow up with an aa.  She'd even go back to the tower with me standing right between the 2 brushes with us fully warded.  Anyway, I don't know if she was just a troll, but certainly god awful.  Reminds me why it sucks to play support.  I can't really do anything if my carry isn't even taking free cs, let along trying to do any damage at all.  Her best move all game was shooting an arrow 2 feet to stun someone so she could run away... it was amazing.

On other notes, DaBrum is officially off the team.  He dropped himself from the roster last night. 

on Jun 11, 2012

Just decided to donate $6 to elobuff.  So far, me likes

on Jun 11, 2012

Random stats -normal elo (eg the "hidden" elo that is assigned for normal games).

  • pacov - 1,515
  • schyster - 818
  • peterdumptruck - 1,289
  • krazikarl - 1,482
  • vlademir sol - 1,658
  • paintmaster - 817
  • the dude II - 1,493
  • shane m - 1,363
  • trousersnake69 - 1,544
  • 4th engineer bn -1,057
  • KrdaxDrkrun - 1,381

 

 

on Jun 11, 2012

me?

on Jun 11, 2012

added ya.

on Jun 11, 2012

thanks

on Jun 11, 2012

Mind looking up mine?  I've been playing with me newer buddies off my smurf account and am worried... we've officially stopped being matched against people who know what "jungling" is.

on Jun 11, 2012

You had to wait till after my massive loss streak /cry.

on Jun 11, 2012

I'm actually getting all of the normal game elo from lol matches

http://lolmatches.com/player/na/51229/pacov

 

there's mine.  click there and then search for your name.  If you don't have any recent stats, its because no one has played with lol matches enabled.  Just check out the site for a few minutes an you'll understand

on Jun 11, 2012

Here is the high score of the night....

 

 

you ready...

 

 

839.


Bam. Im elite.

on Jun 12, 2012

hehe - nice!  We had quite a few fun games tonight with 5 of us.  Tomorrow is the official team game night, so hopefully we have a similar turn out.  Night all!

 

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