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Well, I started a thread  back in August (https://forums.joeuser.com/411269/) that's seen a lot of activity and actually had quite a few good bits of information for new and old players alike.  I figure it's time to start a new thread and perhaps keep the OP up-to-date with useful information, etc.  Feel free to use this post for any LoL discussion, etc.

Super fast background:  I played a lot of Demigod as pacov/cheesuscrust.  Back in August 2011 or so, I started getting heavily involved in LoL and folks have been kind enough to chime in with tips and links to various sites that have been quite useful to me.  In addition, I've been able to keep up with folks that I've played Demigod with in the past and meet some new folks that play LoL and frequent these message boards. 

Here's some of the things I've learned in the previous thread:

 New Player tips

  • Play the tutorial.
  • Consider picking up the starter bundle.  It's 530 RP (that's about $4).  You get 8 champs unlocked, a 4 win IP boost and a 10 win XP boost.  It's a pretty good deal (used it recently on an alt account).  You can find it in the game store under bundles.
  • Riot gives you 400 RP as soon as you hit level 5.  It's enough to buy some skins, a boost, or a cheap character. 
  • Learn to last hit!  Last hitting is simply landing the last hit on creeps.  If you last hit, you get gold for that kill.  The number of creeps you have killed is tracked in a value called CS.  You can see this number in the top right hand corner of the ui or by pressing tab.  Here's a really simple tutorial re: last hitting if you are brand new - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LheiRB76x5g
  • Read some guides on any character you want to try out.  The recommended builds (what you see when you go to a shop) are not optimal.  The guides include item suggestions and skill orders.  These are very useful in learning decent ways to build characters
  • Use the rune combiner to get level 3 runes prior to level 20 if you like.  You will need 375 IP.  Buy any tier 1 rune that costs 15 IP.  You need to purchase 25 of these.  Click on your rune page.  In the bottom right hand corner there is a button called the Rune Combiner.  If you place 5 runes in there, you can get a random rune that is 1 tier higher (eg if you have 5 tier 1 runes, you will get 1 random tier 2 rune.  Anyway, the math works out such that you spend 375 IP ( buy 25 tier 1 15 IP runes) and you get 1 completely random tier 3 rune.  Some of the quintessences are 2k IP, so if you luck out and get one of those, you just won the lottery.  You can always keep the random tier 2 rune if you end up with something good and don't want to trade it out yet.
  • Consider setting aside IP for tier 3 runes (available at level 20 and above).  You can't purchase them with real money - only IP.  Keep that in mind.

Great site I visit every day for LoL related news - http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends

pacov's misc info

Here's a guide I made

pacov's Guide to Improving at League of Legends and Moving Up in Elo

k - so I'm just going to put down some of my thoughts.  I'm not amazing at this game, but I do certain things that improve my odds of winning in ranked and so far its panning out just fine (bronze 5 to gold 5 in about a month or so).  We all have varied skill levels, so some of this might be useful and some not.  Caveat complete.

Prerequisite- you need to know how to play every single role.  You don't have to be a god at every single role (more power to you if you are - I'm certainly not).  You need to be able to play at a serviceable level in every single role and excel at least at 1 role (preferably 2).  In my case, I'm good at support and adc.  I'm not great, but have serviceable mids and jungles and so so tops.  Knowing what you are good at and bad at is very important.  If you don't know, I can probably tell you - but you really should know...  Anyway, you need to have enough champs to make solid picks in any role and you need to be able to cover any role if it comes down to it.  I'll talk about how to get better at specific roles in a bit.

Champ select advice - Don't be the "fill" guy unless you really feel like you are awesome in all roles.  Call your preferred role immediately when you hit the lobby.  Say "adc pref."  Do this as soon as you hit the lobby.  Some people believe that if you call a role you magically get it.  This is stupid, but if you call something out, folks will often accomodate your request.  If you are feeling wishy washy for whatever reason, call out multiple roles in order of what you want to play - "adc/mid pref."  In my experience, you generally do not want to call support.  It's a very important role, but you want to be in a position to carry every single game if possible.  If you aren't calling out a role, you are hoping that other players can carry you.  If you are hoping that folks will carry you, you don't deserve to win.  You need to know your best roles and you absolutely should request them.

Solo or duo in ranked? - Well, my 1st thought here is that you should solo.  If you solo, you have to rely on yourself.  IMO - its a much bigger test of skill to play solo and win than to duo.  Do you want someone to carry you or do you really want to know that you are actually good?  That said, provided you have the right duo partner, you can increase your odds of winning quite a bit.  The simple math is that instead of having 4 teammates as unknown quantities, you only have 3.  If you have a good duo teammate, you know what you can expect.  When you duo, you get the most bang for your buck by having complimentary roles.  Support/adc is good; jungle/mid also works.  Even if you don't have direct symmetry in roles, if you are an amazing mid and I'm an amazing adc, our odds go up quite a bit if we both get those roles.  Our odds go way down if we can't get those roles and are forced to play out of positions that we are weaker.  For example, Bryff is a good mid.  If he duo's up with me, the only way he will get to play that role is for me to call mid, take it myself, and then put myself into a position like support where I can't carry out of (I'm always 1st pick, Bryff is always last pick when we duo)... that and I have to show the mid I'm picking at the start which means Bryff gets hard countered.  In short, we can expect that we will be a disadvantage when duo queuing.  Now, if Bryff queued up with someone at a lower elo than himself that was solid, he'd likely be 1st pick and be able to get mid and have a better chance of carrying the game.  Anyway, you need to keep in mind where you end up in pick order when duoing if you aren't looking to go adc/support.  If you want that, you can usually get it. 

How do you get better in roles that you are not good at? - Well, here's what I do.  And this is really what I do on a regular basis.  I think about what I'm good at and what I'm not good at.  For instance, I realized that I don't play any hyper carry ads.  So, I read up on hyper carries like vayne and kog maw.  I look for guides on how to build them (most adcs are the same btw ), I look for vids on how people play them (eg how do I all in with a specific champ - is there a combo - when do I all in - what's the best way for me to burst - how should I behave in lane with this champ).  Then, I fire up a custom game and try out the mechanics of whatever champ vs AI.  Usually I learn a few tricks during that custom on how to position myself, etc.  Then, I'm off to normal games where I'll request the role or character I'm trying out.  Now, people still report your for being awful in normals, but it really is where you need to try out characters to see if you are any good or not as the bots are useless for proving your skill level to yourself.  So, fire up that normal and ask to play a role (again - after you've tried out the champ against bots).  If you don't know anyone you are with and you are quite awful, I suggest muting everyone at the start of the game.  Then, do your best.  Continue with this until you feel like you have a serviceable skill level in whatever role.  And keep in mind what you need to work on.  For me, I noticed I didn't really have alot of mids for ranked, so I started practicing some with gragas against and karth.  That way, I'll be able to get the job done if I need to play mid.  The next thing I need to do is put more time into being better top lane. Again, because while I prefer adc/support, I might need to play top for the team.  So, best to be ready for it.  Put your time in and practice roles. 

One last thought - there are certain things you can generally expect in ranked.  1 - if you are 1st pick, you generally can call whatever you want.  Common knowledge, I'm sure - but I'll add - CALL WHATEVER YOU WANT.  2 - if you duo queue, you generally can lock down both adc and support.  It works best if your adc is 1st pick, ofc.  I've bumped into like 10 random dedicated supports in all of my games of LoL.  People generally aren't going to call support. So, if you are 1st pick and duo'd, just call adc and then your duo partner can almost always get support.

 

Lol King profiles for ranked tracking

I'm not going to update this regularly, so just consider it a snapshot (I'll add a date when I update them).  Anyway, I enjoy seeing folks progress through ranked and keeping tabs on that sort of thing from time to time. 

Snapshot updated 05/28/2014

 Character guides

Mid Ziggs by cow - http://www.lolking.net/guides/7906

Comments (Page 89)
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on Jul 26, 2012

OMG_Shiro
I got Peter on Teamspeak! ahuehuehue.

I shall only bust karl's balls in celebration of your accomplishment.  YAYYYYY VLAD!!!

 

on Jul 26, 2012

continuing my series on krdax...

on Jul 26, 2012

lol

that's what I do...

on Jul 26, 2012

muhahahahhahha

on Jul 26, 2012

KrdaxDrkrun



I'd really like it if I can have a massive host of comments upon my playing skill/pointers on how to improve.

Though preferably not from Cow... As I get the impression that he dislikes me...

 

I like to help people that want to learn. 

on Jul 26, 2012

OMG_ZEX
I like to help people that want to learn.

don't help him unless he gets a new mic - or as he would say it teamspeak "asudiauosid asiuasodaio asdkuaoiduasid (im in a tunnel) asudioasudio."

on Jul 26, 2012

We had some fun (if partially imbalanced) games tonight. I am sure that going forward we will be able to balance the teams better for inhouses though (aka open up spectator slots pacov). Looking forward for more to practice my AD carry.

on Jul 26, 2012

http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=2402220

Diana looks like a jungler/top lane. I think she would be better in the jungle guessing by her skillset though.

on Jul 27, 2012

if we are going to do 5v5's on summoners the teams have to have the best division of talent possible. This is what hedgie was angry about not about peter. He said to me before the game even started that the teams were completely ridiculous. There needs to be 2 of pacov, jack, me, and jona on a single team. Not 3 on one team and 1 on another that will lead to stomps. 

 

About peter. There are certain personalities that clash with peters. Chris and Broken especially. Broken takes a lot of stuff to heart and Chris is a very hot headed individual. Peter does not like to be told that he is doing something wrong because in his mind he is play the exact way he needs to play. Peter learns games differently then anyone else I know. He likes to learn by just playing. Not watching streams, reading guides or watching tournies. I have played games with peter for almost 6 years. I know him very well. I love the guy, he is hard to get along with but if you want to hear the funny shit he has to say you have to put up with how he plays games. Believe it or not he was nearly pro in the game I met him in (Rise of Legends) and he played the same way he plays now, learning the game his own way. He could beat pro players in Rise of Legends but not consistently. I was about the same skill level as him in Rise of Legends.  

on Jul 27, 2012

With the people we had tonight, there were 6 people who needed to be split evenly.  Pacov, Jack, me, Jona, Cow, and Dude should be split 3-3 between the teams.  Dude dominated his lane like half the time and was solid the other half, so he isn't exactly chopped liver and can hold his own against anybody we were playing with.  Stomps were happening when those people were split 4-2 (or worse in the last game).

on Jul 27, 2012

Yeah, your guys issue of dividing teams on in house 5v5's pretty much boils down to the old saying "It takes two thieves to strike an honest bargain"

Take two of the better (the two best if ego's allow this to be decided) players in the group and make them captains.  Have one of them divide the remaining 8 players into two teams.  The other captain gets to pick which of the teams he wants.

Two theoretically even teams without having to have somebody having schoolyard flashbacks on being the last one picked.

on Jul 27, 2012

I spoke with Hedgie right after the game and talked through all of this stuff - fyi anyway.  Anywho, the short version is this - if we do anymore in house 5v5 games, we'll do our best to balance teams out.

Thanks for all the games last night - was nice to get to play a bunch of summoner's rift games instead of aram all night.  danke

on Jul 27, 2012

The 5v5 inhouse is nice. It was cool to play different people top. I may have to give Jayce a try after that seeing all the dmg he does. Hadn't seen him top before, but he can really abuse the meta once you coordinate your transformations. That melee bonus defense is a little much in my opinion. It was tough to harass him effectively, especially with that huge knockback.

As for balancing teams, I totally agree this needs to be a priority. I wouldn't want to play with us if I ended up with the odds stacked against me. Doesn't matter as much with ARAM, but Summoner's Rift definitely.

Just another note, I get frustrated at times too, but it's completely unacceptable to grief people on your team in our inhouse games. Constructive advice is fine, but say your piece and move on. If you go beyond that, it's harassment and I don't want to play with you. The more I play this game, the more I realize that attitude is everything. So if you aren't going to be a positive member of the team, then don't play on the team at all. Take a break, come back and start over.

^This isn't directed at anyone in particular, but I really look forward to our game nights and I think this is something we should take seriously. Everyone should be entitled to have fun with us.

 

on Jul 27, 2012

 

had fun last night, but all 3 games i was bot with people i don't know/haven't played with before... couldn't rely on them as much as some of you or others i play with on a regular basis

on Jul 27, 2012

Bot lane is all about trusting your partner imo. Two people that know how each other play and work together is almost impossible for two people who do not duo bot together to beat. I think we need to start working on teamwork between the group because the only duo bot we have atm (if Pacov is support me) is Pacov and I and it leads to bot lane always being skewed in our favor.

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