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Well, I started a thread  back in August (https://forums.joeuser.com/411269/) that's seen a lot of activity and actually had quite a few good bits of information for new and old players alike.  I figure it's time to start a new thread and perhaps keep the OP up-to-date with useful information, etc.  Feel free to use this post for any LoL discussion, etc.

Super fast background:  I played a lot of Demigod as pacov/cheesuscrust.  Back in August 2011 or so, I started getting heavily involved in LoL and folks have been kind enough to chime in with tips and links to various sites that have been quite useful to me.  In addition, I've been able to keep up with folks that I've played Demigod with in the past and meet some new folks that play LoL and frequent these message boards. 

Here's some of the things I've learned in the previous thread:

 New Player tips

  • Play the tutorial.
  • Consider picking up the starter bundle.  It's 530 RP (that's about $4).  You get 8 champs unlocked, a 4 win IP boost and a 10 win XP boost.  It's a pretty good deal (used it recently on an alt account).  You can find it in the game store under bundles.
  • Riot gives you 400 RP as soon as you hit level 5.  It's enough to buy some skins, a boost, or a cheap character. 
  • Learn to last hit!  Last hitting is simply landing the last hit on creeps.  If you last hit, you get gold for that kill.  The number of creeps you have killed is tracked in a value called CS.  You can see this number in the top right hand corner of the ui or by pressing tab.  Here's a really simple tutorial re: last hitting if you are brand new - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LheiRB76x5g
  • Read some guides on any character you want to try out.  The recommended builds (what you see when you go to a shop) are not optimal.  The guides include item suggestions and skill orders.  These are very useful in learning decent ways to build characters
  • Use the rune combiner to get level 3 runes prior to level 20 if you like.  You will need 375 IP.  Buy any tier 1 rune that costs 15 IP.  You need to purchase 25 of these.  Click on your rune page.  In the bottom right hand corner there is a button called the Rune Combiner.  If you place 5 runes in there, you can get a random rune that is 1 tier higher (eg if you have 5 tier 1 runes, you will get 1 random tier 2 rune.  Anyway, the math works out such that you spend 375 IP ( buy 25 tier 1 15 IP runes) and you get 1 completely random tier 3 rune.  Some of the quintessences are 2k IP, so if you luck out and get one of those, you just won the lottery.  You can always keep the random tier 2 rune if you end up with something good and don't want to trade it out yet.
  • Consider setting aside IP for tier 3 runes (available at level 20 and above).  You can't purchase them with real money - only IP.  Keep that in mind.

Great site I visit every day for LoL related news - http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends

pacov's misc info

Here's a guide I made

pacov's Guide to Improving at League of Legends and Moving Up in Elo

k - so I'm just going to put down some of my thoughts.  I'm not amazing at this game, but I do certain things that improve my odds of winning in ranked and so far its panning out just fine (bronze 5 to gold 5 in about a month or so).  We all have varied skill levels, so some of this might be useful and some not.  Caveat complete.

Prerequisite- you need to know how to play every single role.  You don't have to be a god at every single role (more power to you if you are - I'm certainly not).  You need to be able to play at a serviceable level in every single role and excel at least at 1 role (preferably 2).  In my case, I'm good at support and adc.  I'm not great, but have serviceable mids and jungles and so so tops.  Knowing what you are good at and bad at is very important.  If you don't know, I can probably tell you - but you really should know...  Anyway, you need to have enough champs to make solid picks in any role and you need to be able to cover any role if it comes down to it.  I'll talk about how to get better at specific roles in a bit.

Champ select advice - Don't be the "fill" guy unless you really feel like you are awesome in all roles.  Call your preferred role immediately when you hit the lobby.  Say "adc pref."  Do this as soon as you hit the lobby.  Some people believe that if you call a role you magically get it.  This is stupid, but if you call something out, folks will often accomodate your request.  If you are feeling wishy washy for whatever reason, call out multiple roles in order of what you want to play - "adc/mid pref."  In my experience, you generally do not want to call support.  It's a very important role, but you want to be in a position to carry every single game if possible.  If you aren't calling out a role, you are hoping that other players can carry you.  If you are hoping that folks will carry you, you don't deserve to win.  You need to know your best roles and you absolutely should request them.

Solo or duo in ranked? - Well, my 1st thought here is that you should solo.  If you solo, you have to rely on yourself.  IMO - its a much bigger test of skill to play solo and win than to duo.  Do you want someone to carry you or do you really want to know that you are actually good?  That said, provided you have the right duo partner, you can increase your odds of winning quite a bit.  The simple math is that instead of having 4 teammates as unknown quantities, you only have 3.  If you have a good duo teammate, you know what you can expect.  When you duo, you get the most bang for your buck by having complimentary roles.  Support/adc is good; jungle/mid also works.  Even if you don't have direct symmetry in roles, if you are an amazing mid and I'm an amazing adc, our odds go up quite a bit if we both get those roles.  Our odds go way down if we can't get those roles and are forced to play out of positions that we are weaker.  For example, Bryff is a good mid.  If he duo's up with me, the only way he will get to play that role is for me to call mid, take it myself, and then put myself into a position like support where I can't carry out of (I'm always 1st pick, Bryff is always last pick when we duo)... that and I have to show the mid I'm picking at the start which means Bryff gets hard countered.  In short, we can expect that we will be a disadvantage when duo queuing.  Now, if Bryff queued up with someone at a lower elo than himself that was solid, he'd likely be 1st pick and be able to get mid and have a better chance of carrying the game.  Anyway, you need to keep in mind where you end up in pick order when duoing if you aren't looking to go adc/support.  If you want that, you can usually get it. 

How do you get better in roles that you are not good at? - Well, here's what I do.  And this is really what I do on a regular basis.  I think about what I'm good at and what I'm not good at.  For instance, I realized that I don't play any hyper carry ads.  So, I read up on hyper carries like vayne and kog maw.  I look for guides on how to build them (most adcs are the same btw ), I look for vids on how people play them (eg how do I all in with a specific champ - is there a combo - when do I all in - what's the best way for me to burst - how should I behave in lane with this champ).  Then, I fire up a custom game and try out the mechanics of whatever champ vs AI.  Usually I learn a few tricks during that custom on how to position myself, etc.  Then, I'm off to normal games where I'll request the role or character I'm trying out.  Now, people still report your for being awful in normals, but it really is where you need to try out characters to see if you are any good or not as the bots are useless for proving your skill level to yourself.  So, fire up that normal and ask to play a role (again - after you've tried out the champ against bots).  If you don't know anyone you are with and you are quite awful, I suggest muting everyone at the start of the game.  Then, do your best.  Continue with this until you feel like you have a serviceable skill level in whatever role.  And keep in mind what you need to work on.  For me, I noticed I didn't really have alot of mids for ranked, so I started practicing some with gragas against and karth.  That way, I'll be able to get the job done if I need to play mid.  The next thing I need to do is put more time into being better top lane. Again, because while I prefer adc/support, I might need to play top for the team.  So, best to be ready for it.  Put your time in and practice roles. 

One last thought - there are certain things you can generally expect in ranked.  1 - if you are 1st pick, you generally can call whatever you want.  Common knowledge, I'm sure - but I'll add - CALL WHATEVER YOU WANT.  2 - if you duo queue, you generally can lock down both adc and support.  It works best if your adc is 1st pick, ofc.  I've bumped into like 10 random dedicated supports in all of my games of LoL.  People generally aren't going to call support. So, if you are 1st pick and duo'd, just call adc and then your duo partner can almost always get support.

 

Lol King profiles for ranked tracking

I'm not going to update this regularly, so just consider it a snapshot (I'll add a date when I update them).  Anyway, I enjoy seeing folks progress through ranked and keeping tabs on that sort of thing from time to time. 

Snapshot updated 05/28/2014

 Character guides

Mid Ziggs by cow - http://www.lolking.net/guides/7906

Comments (Page 91)
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on Jul 29, 2012

Dat Cho'Gath skin looks great.

on Jul 29, 2012

yes...

looks amazing!

on Jul 29, 2012

ok the peterkill vid is up now.  Just played a few games on pbe with diana.  I'm thinking jungle will be primary for her.  With her ult and her q, she can hop around ala lee sin style.  She'll be exceptional good at chasing down enemies as she can catch up quickly and slow down pretty easily.  I kind of thing she might benefit from spell vamp quints for jungling.  I think she'd sustain really well with those and/or grabing a vamp scepter due to her AS buff.  As it was, playing with a mage setup and no leash, I cleared jungle in about 3:30 or so (just went pots + cloth).  I think she'll be a fun addition as a jungler.  Not sure about top lane.

on Jul 29, 2012

Mid lane is where it's at

on Jul 29, 2012

KrdaxDrkrun
Mid lane is where it's at

I doubt it, but I guess we'll see.  She's a melee caster. 

edit - interesting callout re: her in lane

http://i.imgur.com/jS1pP.jpg

on Jul 29, 2012

Melee Caster? Kassadin? Talon?

I am aware that they both have silences, but I'm going to at least try her mid lane to see how she does...

on Jul 29, 2012

Talon falls flat on his face after lane phase against any team, and the only melee thing about kassadin is his auto attack. I do not see Diana doing well at all in mid.

on Jul 29, 2012

I'm still going to do it...

 

Kassadin has innate Magic resist tankiness that allows him to get in close to casters to even autoattack them...

 

Diana possesses interesting burst damage and an interesting mechanic...

I said I was going to try it, in spite of whatever you guys said, I don't care if I feed... I would just like to see for myself that she is totally useless in the mid lane...

I can't see her doing well in top lane... But that's just me...

on Jul 30, 2012

The classy thing to say is "hey -we are going to go play a summoner's rift game."  The not so classy thing to do is to ask me to invite several folks, join a game, then leave it without a comment.  So - let me quickly qualify in a crystal clear way:  I don't super enjoy aram games a ton.  From time to time, sure.  I typically host them when we have a bunch of folks so we can all play together.  If you decide you want to piss off with like 2-3 people that joined the exciting aram - a quick pm would be appreciated.  Completely fine with me if another group breaks off to play a diff mode - I don't aram all the time.  But please extend simple courtesy in the future.  I'd do no less for you.  Thanks.  no -need to respond - but extend the simple courtesy in the future please.

on Jul 30, 2012

Onto other things - vlad and I have been duo queuing ranked a couple games each days.  At 5 games in, we are 100% with him going ranged ad carry and me going support.  He's only played a few games this season, so he just shot above me a wee bit in elo (eg he gets more per game than me and my incredible 50 games or so), but hey - we are 5 out of 5 so far.  2 pain in ass wins (the last 2) and the rest pretty easy.  We are low 1400s now.  If we keep playing at the same rate (2 per night), we'll break 1500 this week pretty easily and possible hit 1600.  I have replays from each game (not doing my live recordings at this point on the duo queue games).  I might create a new thread covering how we did and provide suggestions.  I'm sticking with my theory that a support + ranged ad is the best duo queue combo followed by mid/jungle.  The short version is that if a team is doing rot, the general move is to piss and moan and get bent out of shape.  But if you have a pal that can help you tune out the whiners and then aid you in getting shite done - well, that goes a long way.  And that made a pretty big diff in our last 2 ranked games imo. 

on Jul 30, 2012

Whining to your duo partner helps too! ahuehue.

Fun times though and I look forward to more.

on Jul 30, 2012

The classy thing to say is "hey -we are going to go play a summoner's rift game."  The not so classy thing to do is to ask me to invite several folks, join a game, then leave it without a comment.  So - let me quickly qualify in a crystal clear way:  I don't super enjoy aram games a ton.  From time to time, sure.  I typically host them when we have a bunch of folks so we can all play together.  If you decide you want to piss off with like 2-3 people that joined the exciting aram - a quick pm would be appreciated.  Completely fine with me if another group breaks off to play a diff mode - I don't aram all the time.  But please extend simple courtesy in the future.  I'd do no less for you.  Thanks.  no -need to respond - but extend the simple courtesy in the future please.

Soccer mom wanted to play summoners rift. He sort of wants to learn one champ at a time and the random champ really through him off. I would of said something if we were on the same voice chat thing but we were not. Sorry to crash the party and then leave before it started. 

on Jul 30, 2012

OMG_ZEX
Soccer mom wanted to play summoners rift. He sort of wants to learn one champ at a time and the random champ really through him off. I would of said something if we were on the same voice chat thing but we were not. Sorry to crash the party and then leave before it started.

ok thx!  Glad you managed to convince soccer to play some lol again. 

on Jul 30, 2012

Going to be uploading a 7 minute clip from one of vlad's and my duo queued ranked games in a little bit.  Clip has some commentary and a break down of one of the battles.  Covers a bit of what the exciting atmopshere is like in a ~1425 elo game.

 

here's a cool recap from riot on a recent tourney - showcases m5 a bit

on Jul 30, 2012

Haha that voidling stealing the penta kill is priceless. (Peterkill)

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