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This thread has been closed by pacov - a new thread has been created here:  http://forums.demigodthegame.com/383615

 

Why create this thread?

Simply stated, the ladder is generally not the best depiction of skill, imho.  It GENERALLY tracks who plays the game the most and/or who acts like a jerk by cheating instead of who the most talented players are.  That's not to say that everyone high up in the ladder falls into this category.  So, if I were to put together my own ladder that indicated skill, I wonder how things would shake out.  Obvious hurdles being that many highly skilled individuals don't play each other.  So, this requires either the people that don't play together to play more together (my personal choice) or I have to rely from feedback from other players.

Your part if you want to participate

Who do you guys think are the best players in demigod today?  I understand that its a team game, but individual players do tend to stand out (and I also know that one great player can't guarantee a win if he has weak teammates, etc).  I'm happy to have everyone's feedback.  I'm not looking for people to jump in and flame. Just call out who you think is great or who you'd like to see fight.  Perhaps we'll get games going.  You want to flame and talk crap, your post will probably end up deleted. 

You can nominate anyone you want.  To keep this from being a list of who likes who, several individuals that are generally considered excellent at the game will moderate the list.  If those individuals generally agree, a player can be removed or promoted in the list.

I've decided on 4 categories of players and have provided descriptions of each.  Please recommend players along with the category you feel they fit in.

Tier 1 Demigod Players:

Realistically, its my belief that there are 10-30 players in this game that are tier 1 DG players (the best). Those players shine as individuals, generally with a wide variety of characters and do not depend on a specific team or teammate to do well.  They can play exceptionally in 1v1, 2v2, 3v3, 4v4, and 5v5.  These are players that do not cheat or desync games.  These are the people that you want on your team or you want to play against because you know you will get a good game.  Any player in this list or any other should currently be an active player.  

  • abuggeredhedgie/awuffleablehedgie
  • cowbuttzex
  • kalelsmx
  • GM-Janook
  • gm-magnus333
  • GM-Mcshane
  • GM-Mithrander
  • GM-NinkiCZ
  • GM-Renz0kuken
  • GM-Zen_God
  • Nomilarac
  • Orcun
  • OMG-pacov
  • Paulie Carbone
  • RAWRRRR
  • ThatGuyYoulove/ boxxy_Koush
  • trousersnake

Tier 2 Demigod Players:

These are players that don't quite currently fit into highest level of players, but are good players all the same.  Perhaps they require a specific team or can only do well in specific types of games (1v1, 2v2).  The bottom line is that they aren't quite as polished or versatile as the highest level players. 

  • 2nana
  • Alterschism 
  • Amazing_Hero (oak)
  • Archon_SAAR (regulus!)
  • Atma44x (torch bearer)
  • captnspaulding
  • Celmare
  • Darz4 (qot)
  • DD_Karebears
  • Epiphenomenon (beast)
  • Esuzu
  • eXXcentric
  • Grahf666
  • IamKira
  • _illuminati_
  • Iokke
  • irek1988/never-fuk-wit-a-oak
  • Jaws8you
  • Jona__
  • Jongalt26
  • Ke5trel
  • Kitty007
  • Kollecktir
  • Lethstang (oak + ub)
  • lifekatana
  • LuftBR
  • Maccilia
  • Naur (oak + da + reg)
  • Obiwhan
  • Ogham
  • peterdumptruck
  • prozombie
  • Shred_demon (demon assassin)
  • Soccer-mom
  • spooky_
  • STFNG
  • Teseer (tb)
  • Thundercles
  • xXxXxAchillesTGxXxX
  • Xynth
  • yeahneil
  • Zoahr

Tier 3 Demigod Players:

A third group (or list) would be everyone else. No need to list individuals...

Demigod Players that Should Be Avoided:

These would be specific individuals that clearly (and I mean clearly) cheat.  You don't get on this list unless I (pacov) am VERY convinced that you belong here.

  • AlienWarrior - This player should be avoided.  Stat exploiter confirmed by pacov.  As of 1/5/2010, this player has 34 wins and 0 losses and is ladder ranked 34.  I played a game with him in a 1v1 with him as the host.  After confirming that the player spoke English, I asked him if he would let the stats count if I beat him (there is currently a simple exploit that enables any host in a 1v1 game to make the game disappear if they don't want the stats to be kept - Also note that this player plays almost exclusively 1v1 games).  The player did not respond to my question.  As I began to tear down both sides of the player's base, he used the stat exploit and the game vanished as a result.  The player used this exploit with about 10 minutes left in the game.  Based on his stats and skill level (read: not highly skilled), this player is clearly exploiting the stat system.
  • PrizmSmurf - This player should be avoided.  Stat exploiter and poor sport confirmed by pacov on 4/1/2010.  After losing in a 2v2 matchup, PrizmSmurf said "I hope you die a long slow death of cancer.  I mean it."  Then said, "Bet you are going to enjoy watching me desync."  Then, just before the citadel went down, desynced the game. Based on his stats, he clearly does not desync games on a regular basis, but wishing cancer on someone because they beat you in a game and then committing the one offense in demigod that can get you banned (saying you are desycning then desyncing) is a bit over the top.  I suggest you avoid him. 

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on May 01, 2010

No, I've had a few games with him as a good Erebus. Never seen him as anything else.

on May 01, 2010

No, he's a good player. Not why I'm laughing. 

on May 01, 2010

Alright, then I'm confused.

on May 01, 2010

I nominate Allistar

LOL You're like my favourite person, ever.

on May 01, 2010

Alright, then I'm confused.

Most of us that play on lagwars know all of the smurf accounts.  That is one.

I suppose it's the sort of subjectivity to this that makes it so much fun to discuss

Exactly right.  Some are great in 2v2... some with just certain teammates... most will lose on a terrible team... its just totally and completely subjective.  GM lost a game because they were playing with silly characters, not because they got beat fair and square.  I think most of us always have some reason for why we lose. 

on May 01, 2010

I realized he was a smurf when I got the lolz from Hedge. I was confused as to why it's funny. Isn't the point of a smurf for people not to know? Regardless if some people know or not, I just didn't see what was funny for the point of a smurf account being upheld.


McShane and Janook had some pretty out there item picks our last game. Don't remember what they were cause I'm at work, but they were pretty goofy.

on May 01, 2010

Allistar is an account used by like 8 people LOL

on May 01, 2010

Cowbuttzex
Allistar is an account used by like 8 people LOL

LOL! That's pretty funny...

on May 02, 2010

I'll just take it as a sign I need to play more, lol.

A 40+ day break kills knowing whats currently up. I'm still catchin up

on May 03, 2010

Recommending a guy to tier 1 after a beating < an hour ago though... should have been somewhat even based on our tier list anyway.  It wasn't.  It was a fun game though. 

Oops, I had no idea you were talking about Mith here.

Well McShane87 was in that game so does this mean he should be removed from the Tier list too? I've played enough games with Mith to know he's definitely up to par for Tier 1. He'll post up his replay soon for the tourney anyway.

on May 03, 2010

http://www.gamereplays.org/demigod/replays.php?game=51&show=details&id=122465

 Playing against all tier 1s we still won with an oak i have never seen  .

http://www.gamereplays.org/demigod/replays.php?game=51&show=details&id=122648
another good game against tier ones

http://www.gamereplays.org/demigod/replays.php?game=51&show=details&id=122646
Made one mistake by not noticing nom was low hp, but other then that carried the game feeding our erebus with support and capping flags.  Dloading that nifty god panel after that game  .

http://www.gamereplays.org/demigod/replays.php?game=51&show=details&id=122642
Almost beat ninki obi and a good player that just came back.  After peter fed and left.  Carried the entire game until ninki caught up with me in levels and then hp because i had to buy citadel upgrades that peter couldnt.  Eventually lost because we didnt have peter to lock a flag if one of us died.

 

http://www.gamereplays.org/demigod/replays.php?game=51&show=details&id=122375
Coin purse reg against rook ub oak, need i say more 

 

on May 03, 2010

Weigh in on jona if you guys have a moment to check out his replays. He pm'd me this info a couple days back but I haven't watched them yet.  He's certainly capable and easily qualifies for tier 2 imo.  Tier 1.  I'm not sure yet.  He played well when I got to play with/against, but I think he's still shaking the dust off after being gone for a bit.  Thoughts?

Well McShane87 was in that game so does this mean he should be removed from the Tier list too? I've played enough games with Mith to know he's definitely up to par for Tier 1. He'll post up his replay soon for the tourney anyway.

I'll be watching his replays in the tourney.  I won't hold him back any longer (unless he gets wiped in his first round match).  Based on the list as it is, that match will be 2 tier 2's vs a 1 and a 2.  Anyway, bottom line if renz and mith win that match, I'll put mith to tier 1.  I actually think that might be the first match to go 3 rounds, but we'll see (anyone else notice that there hasn't been a single 3 round game in the tourney yet). 

on May 03, 2010

http://www.gamereplays.org/demigod/replays.php?game=51&show=details&id=122465

 Playing against all tier 1s we still won with an oak i have never seen  .

http://www.gamereplays.org/demigod/replays.php?game=51&show=details&id=122648
another good game against tier ones

http://www.gamereplays.org/demigod/replays.php?game=51&show=details&id=122646
Made one mistake by not noticing nom was low hp, but other then that carried the game feeding our erebus with support and capping flags.  Dloading that nifty god panel after that game  .

http://www.gamereplays.org/demigod/replays.php?game=51&show=details&id=122642
Almost beat ninki obi and a good player that just came back.  After peter fed and left.  Carried the entire game until ninki caught up with me in levels and then hp because i had to buy citadel upgrades that peter couldnt.  Eventually lost because we didnt have peter to lock a flag if one of us died.

 

http://www.gamereplays.org/demigod/replays.php?game=51&show=details&id=122375
Coin purse reg against rook ub oak, need i say more 

 

That first game was so funny. I got stunned so many times when I was going to heal and I remembered why I don't play sedna. The second game is not worth posting here or in the first place and I will be linking a replay of you getting your ass kicked shortly for some retribution my entire team didn't give a shit after the first 5 minutes.

As for your tier one status I am undecided yet. I am on the fence!

on May 03, 2010

I'll be watching his replays in the tourney. I won't hold him back any longer (unless he gets wiped in his first round match). Based on the list as it is, that match will be 2 tier 2's vs a 1 and a 2. Anyway, bottom line if renz and mith win that match, I'll put mith to tier 1. I actually think that might be the first match to go 3 rounds, but we'll see (anyone else notice that there hasn't been a single 3 round game in the tourney yet).

Oh! Hey that opens a nice window - So if Tes and I beat R/K i.e. two Tier 2's beat two Tier 1's does that put us in Tier 1? 

on May 03, 2010

Ke5trel


Oh! Hey that opens a nice window - So if Tes and I beat R/K i.e. two Tier 2's beat two Tier 1's does that put us in Tier 1? 

Damn right it does, lol.

I hang just fine with...pretty much anyone I play with. If everything feels I'm teir 2, thats fine, but I don't agree

Edit: And I agree with Cow. The only thing that 'Ooze v Spit' replay shows is why not to feed a UB/LE. I think we all knew that already anyway.

Edit: But I do feel Jona is pretty good. I'll reserve judgement till I play with him more.

Edit again, read that second line again, I sound like a douche, lol.

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