If you don't send a monk to one side of the map within 5s of the game starting as the only general on a team, you don't deserve to own the game, much less be on a list with tiers.

Also, if you don't send a new monk within 15s of the old one dying at any point you shouldn't be on a list.

Lastly, if you don't understand stacking monks or don't do it in the first 3 minutes of a game with multiple generals your account should be deleted and all mention of you erased from these forums for all time, including this list.

I'm guessing this comment refers in some way to the replay Jona posted... though I'm not sure who specifically he's calling out here, etc...

Well that was the first balanced game i've played against Cows ooze ub.  And it shows flag control and early game prowess.  Id like to try it again cow is an awesome UB to play against.  But in most situations spit UB owns unless ooze UB gets a lot of kills from diseased claw surprise.

Well monks have been my hotspot lately.  Jona sent me a monk like 20s into a game recently and I was furious!

The comment wasn't directed at him (though I thought to post it because of that game), it's just my opinion that a tier 1 player will always have pro monk micro.

Well the only reason i didnt send you a monk was because i wanted to solo mana flag and sent a monk to hp.....  So i had to move another monk and they didn't want to listen for like 20seconds.

What happens if the player only plays assassins?  Then they can't ever be tier 1? 

Thats why I figured I wasn't on the list.

Getting punished for only liking one guy, sigh. lol

Of course.  This is tier '1' we are talking about here, not tier 'your mom'.

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His criteria, not necessarily mine.  If you do play generals and are tier 1, I'd think you have great micro skills with monks, etc.  The problem with people who only use 1 character is in how the definition for tier 1 is written. 

So regarding you, teseer - you've got one of the best tb's out there.  You have  a very detailed thread going with strategies on how to deal with each dg.  And what you do, you do very well.  However, because you primarily play one character, that limits what you can do, unless you believe that tb is someone you would want on your team in every 3v3 scenario.  Say, cata 3v3 - the other team is oak/erb/ub.  Your team has tb + ? + ?.  However, other scenarios where tb would be a good choice, make your skill level with tb all the more useful and a great asset to your team.  I'd generally prefer the more versatile player over the expert with one in matchups (I get a chance to play tb from time to time too, then ).  There's nothing wrong with your philosophy to play the heck out of one character and be better with him than anyone else - I just find its a little limiting (and I hate having to be the guy to pick a tier 1 char to compensate all the time).  Not to say that you can't do some great stuff against a team of ub/erb/oak or some strong combo.  Looking forward to seeing some replays of you in the high level games against GM once your clan gets up and running if they go ub/erb/oak, etc.  I'd almost really want to break up the tier 1 list into tier 1 with only 1 dg and tier 1 with mult dgs if you were added to the t1 list.  I just happen to value flexibility quite a bit... a tier one going all random should not get their butt handed to them imo. 

shredy tells me to tell you that smurf demon is tier 2

Like I said, I know that's why I'm not on the list.

TB is the only reason I play Demigod. I don't have fun with anyone else at the moment. I'll play others eventually, but right now hes the only one I truly enjoy.

Plus, I made a pact with myself to play only TB this Epoch. Dunno if I'll hold to that forever, but that's what I like.

I believe as TB, I'm Tier 1. But by the rules above, I knew I didn't qualify. I think I even mentioned that like 90 pages ago, hah. 

And I'm looking forward to those games too.

(Edit: And you don't HAVE to have a T1 DG, just sayin)

(Edit2: And damn right I think TB should be on every team, lol. On LK's Threat I said the best team is TB/*/* )

Here you go Cow http://www.gamereplays.org/demigod/replays.php?game=51&show=details&id=123003&st=0#7198908

I think Jona belongs in tier 2.  He's good @ copying builds / item selection, but his play needs improvement.  I'd upload / link replays if necessary, but w/e.

Example 1:  Copies Cow's Ooze UB, but doesn't use it effectively to control the map.

Example 2:  Copies my Occ build and attempts to use it against me.  Beginning starts off with him wandering back and forth multiple times then finally coming up to me on mana lane, where I hit him and the tower with chain, and he chains me when there is nothing around.  Later he's laned up against an ooze beast, but doesn't bother to double jump him, merely waits until UB's grasp is off cd, then runs into melee range / gets grasped, then cloaks away.  Easy push out if he ran into melee range and then blast off on top of the beast (and if necessary has cloak to jump away like before).  Instead, he let's a non spit beast @ 2500 control the mana lane for a couple minutes.

Mostly a whole bunch of little things that really make a Tier 1 a Tier 1.  Like not fighting 3 on 3 @ your cd flag when the entire map is controlled by the enemy team and an occ is just chaining both towers down plus hitting everyone else.  That's a time to get other flags and draw them out elsewhere.  

I have the same problem with Sedna. I can certainly play a more-than-competent UB, Oak, Occulus and my Queen and DA aren't too bad (if you take into account their innate weakness). But because I focus on one demigod it was my largest hitch into tier 1. I still preferring only playing Sedna in competitive matches... 

But I can perform fine in All Random games (as long as I'm not Rook lol) 

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magnus is half shooting at me with the monk-stacking thing (something I've known since the first month of this game and been doing with irek since forever). But he's just an angry and bitter person, as you can see...

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Jona is certainly good. Better than I was when I came back from my 2 month break earlier this year. A little cocky, which is something that just ruffles my spines. Despite my trash-talking ways I actually hate trash-talking :-/ I just do it because its the hedgehog thing to do! 

But he's got good confidence, so that's something. 

Give him a few weeks I think.