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This thread has been closed by pacov - a new thread has been created here:  http://forums.demigodthegame.com/383615

 

Why create this thread?

Simply stated, the ladder is generally not the best depiction of skill, imho.  It GENERALLY tracks who plays the game the most and/or who acts like a jerk by cheating instead of who the most talented players are.  That's not to say that everyone high up in the ladder falls into this category.  So, if I were to put together my own ladder that indicated skill, I wonder how things would shake out.  Obvious hurdles being that many highly skilled individuals don't play each other.  So, this requires either the people that don't play together to play more together (my personal choice) or I have to rely from feedback from other players.

Your part if you want to participate

Who do you guys think are the best players in demigod today?  I understand that its a team game, but individual players do tend to stand out (and I also know that one great player can't guarantee a win if he has weak teammates, etc).  I'm happy to have everyone's feedback.  I'm not looking for people to jump in and flame. Just call out who you think is great or who you'd like to see fight.  Perhaps we'll get games going.  You want to flame and talk crap, your post will probably end up deleted. 

You can nominate anyone you want.  To keep this from being a list of who likes who, several individuals that are generally considered excellent at the game will moderate the list.  If those individuals generally agree, a player can be removed or promoted in the list.

I've decided on 4 categories of players and have provided descriptions of each.  Please recommend players along with the category you feel they fit in.

Tier 1 Demigod Players:

Realistically, its my belief that there are 10-30 players in this game that are tier 1 DG players (the best). Those players shine as individuals, generally with a wide variety of characters and do not depend on a specific team or teammate to do well.  They can play exceptionally in 1v1, 2v2, 3v3, 4v4, and 5v5.  These are players that do not cheat or desync games.  These are the people that you want on your team or you want to play against because you know you will get a good game.  Any player in this list or any other should currently be an active player.  

  • abuggeredhedgie/awuffleablehedgie
  • cowbuttzex
  • kalelsmx
  • GM-Janook
  • gm-magnus333
  • GM-Mcshane
  • GM-Mithrander
  • GM-NinkiCZ
  • GM-Renz0kuken
  • GM-Zen_God
  • Nomilarac
  • Orcun
  • OMG-pacov
  • Paulie Carbone
  • RAWRRRR
  • ThatGuyYoulove/ boxxy_Koush
  • trousersnake

Tier 2 Demigod Players:

These are players that don't quite currently fit into highest level of players, but are good players all the same.  Perhaps they require a specific team or can only do well in specific types of games (1v1, 2v2).  The bottom line is that they aren't quite as polished or versatile as the highest level players. 

  • 2nana
  • Alterschism 
  • Amazing_Hero (oak)
  • Archon_SAAR (regulus!)
  • Atma44x (torch bearer)
  • captnspaulding
  • Celmare
  • Darz4 (qot)
  • DD_Karebears
  • Epiphenomenon (beast)
  • Esuzu
  • eXXcentric
  • Grahf666
  • IamKira
  • _illuminati_
  • Iokke
  • irek1988/never-fuk-wit-a-oak
  • Jaws8you
  • Jona__
  • Jongalt26
  • Ke5trel
  • Kitty007
  • Kollecktir
  • Lethstang (oak + ub)
  • lifekatana
  • LuftBR
  • Maccilia
  • Naur (oak + da + reg)
  • Obiwhan
  • Ogham
  • peterdumptruck
  • prozombie
  • Shred_demon (demon assassin)
  • Soccer-mom
  • spooky_
  • STFNG
  • Teseer (tb)
  • Thundercles
  • xXxXxAchillesTGxXxX
  • Xynth
  • yeahneil
  • Zoahr

Tier 3 Demigod Players:

A third group (or list) would be everyone else. No need to list individuals...

Demigod Players that Should Be Avoided:

These would be specific individuals that clearly (and I mean clearly) cheat.  You don't get on this list unless I (pacov) am VERY convinced that you belong here.

  • AlienWarrior - This player should be avoided.  Stat exploiter confirmed by pacov.  As of 1/5/2010, this player has 34 wins and 0 losses and is ladder ranked 34.  I played a game with him in a 1v1 with him as the host.  After confirming that the player spoke English, I asked him if he would let the stats count if I beat him (there is currently a simple exploit that enables any host in a 1v1 game to make the game disappear if they don't want the stats to be kept - Also note that this player plays almost exclusively 1v1 games).  The player did not respond to my question.  As I began to tear down both sides of the player's base, he used the stat exploit and the game vanished as a result.  The player used this exploit with about 10 minutes left in the game.  Based on his stats and skill level (read: not highly skilled), this player is clearly exploiting the stat system.
  • PrizmSmurf - This player should be avoided.  Stat exploiter and poor sport confirmed by pacov on 4/1/2010.  After losing in a 2v2 matchup, PrizmSmurf said "I hope you die a long slow death of cancer.  I mean it."  Then said, "Bet you are going to enjoy watching me desync."  Then, just before the citadel went down, desynced the game. Based on his stats, he clearly does not desync games on a regular basis, but wishing cancer on someone because they beat you in a game and then committing the one offense in demigod that can get you banned (saying you are desycning then desyncing) is a bit over the top.  I suggest you avoid him. 

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on May 03, 2010

I haven't played em in a while, but I can play Oak/LE/QoT/Sed

I REFUSE to play UB. 

I'm not so hot at Reg/Oc/QoT

And DA I haven't played online.

on May 03, 2010





Well that was the first balanced game i've played against Cows ooze ub.  And it shows flag control and early game prowess.  Id like to try it again cow is an awesome UB to play against.  But in most situations spit UB owns unless ooze UB gets a lot of kills from diseased claw surprise.

This is a balanced game that actually was not one sided at all. I went ooze and Jona went Spit beast. The difference was Jona died 8 times in this game and I didn't, now that fact didn't mean much because this game still could of went either way but I am sure Jona dying less would of gave them the win.

http://www.gamereplays.org/demigod/replays.php?game=51&show=details&id=122192

on May 03, 2010

I haven't played em in a while, but I can play Oak/LE/QoT/Sed

I REFUSE to play UB. 

I'm not so hot at Reg/Oc/QoT

And DA I haven't played online.

We should play Sed-TB but me as TB and you as Sed ^^;

on May 03, 2010

Here is an example of Jona getting "owned" by my spit beast.

http://www.gamereplays.org/demigod/replays.php?game=51&show=details&id=123011

on May 03, 2010

awuffleablehedgie


We should play Sed-TB but me as TB and you as Sed ^^;
Lol! I'm down. 1 game each way!

on May 03, 2010

Actually my monk comment has little to do with hedgie.  Though I would kick him out of t1 for poor sportsmanship, I'd expect everyone in t1 to not admittedly, intentionally sabotage their own team for their personal laughs.

Good monk micro can really make or break a game, and at least turn the advantage of a game but very few people do anything more then click a monk and tell it to follow someone, which if often more harm then good (attacking towers), and then forget about it when it dies.

on May 03, 2010

Thats why I figured I wasn't on the list.

Getting punished for only liking one guy, sigh. lol

You can make a Tier list for TBs.

on May 03, 2010

I would if I thought there were more then like 5 good ones.

on May 03, 2010

RAWRRRR
I think Jona belongs in tier 2.  He's good @ copying builds / item selection, but his play needs improvement.  I'd upload / link replays if necessary, but w/e.

Example 1:  Copies Cow's Ooze UB, but doesn't use it effectively to control the map.

Example 2:  Copies my Occ build and attempts to use it against me.  Beginning starts off with him wandering back and forth multiple times then finally coming up to me on mana lane, where I hit him and the tower with chain, and he chains me when there is nothing around.  Later he's laned up against an ooze beast, but doesn't bother to double jump him, merely waits until UB's grasp is off cd, then runs into melee range / gets grasped, then cloaks away.  Easy push out if he ran into melee range and then blast off on top of the beast (and if necessary has cloak to jump away like before).  Instead, he let's a non spit beast @ 2500 control the mana lane for a couple minutes.

 

Mostly a whole bunch of little things that really make a Tier 1 a Tier 1.  Like not fighting 3 on 3 @ your cd flag when the entire map is controlled by the enemy team and an occ is just chaining both towers down plus hitting everyone else.  That's a time to get other flags and draw them out elsewhere.  

 

Being the fact that that was probably my 2nd time playing occulus i had no clue about double jump dmg or how chain lightning worked for awhile and no i am not a good ooze UB at all,  thats probably one of the only games I've ever tried it.  But keep on bringing up one offs and bashing me =/.

on May 03, 2010

An arrogant attitude invites this kinda stuff. Just sayin.

on May 03, 2010

Ninki wanted to see my spit vs cows ooze win so i posted it then cow got all defensive oh well.  Not being arrogant.

on May 03, 2010

Ninki wanted to see my spit vs cows ooze win so i posted it then cow got all defensive oh well.  Not being arrogant.

Thats because it was a BS game from minute 5. Everyone has games where the get rolled I don't care if your Mcshane, kalel, rawwr, me, mith, renz, pacov, trouser or anybody thats "pro" in this game. Don't post shit games on GR's. The game you are looking for a good example of your skill would be one where the game was rediculously close and you stood out on your team, the closest thing you have to that is the first replay in your post with the replays that is probably the only worth while replay out of those 5.

The only other replay that I think is legitimate is the first one I posted of the super close citadel's dying at the same time game.

Post games like those games and link them here.

on May 03, 2010

I never would have brought up those games without you bringing up your whole list of games.  Do I think you're terrible? No.  Do I think you are currently Tier 1? No.  That's all.  You certainly didn't make "huge" mistakes in those 2 games I referenced, just a string of little things that add up.  

on May 03, 2010

yes....but is Jona__ tier 1.5? 

I haven't actually watched the replays you're talking about yet, I'm just trying to stir things up 

on May 03, 2010

Going to at least make ABornExile tier 2?  I'm sure if asked he would be tier 0, but for the time being we should at least put his name up there 

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