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This thread has been closed by pacov - a new thread has been created here:  http://forums.demigodthegame.com/383615

 

Why create this thread?

Simply stated, the ladder is generally not the best depiction of skill, imho.  It GENERALLY tracks who plays the game the most and/or who acts like a jerk by cheating instead of who the most talented players are.  That's not to say that everyone high up in the ladder falls into this category.  So, if I were to put together my own ladder that indicated skill, I wonder how things would shake out.  Obvious hurdles being that many highly skilled individuals don't play each other.  So, this requires either the people that don't play together to play more together (my personal choice) or I have to rely from feedback from other players.

Your part if you want to participate

Who do you guys think are the best players in demigod today?  I understand that its a team game, but individual players do tend to stand out (and I also know that one great player can't guarantee a win if he has weak teammates, etc).  I'm happy to have everyone's feedback.  I'm not looking for people to jump in and flame. Just call out who you think is great or who you'd like to see fight.  Perhaps we'll get games going.  You want to flame and talk crap, your post will probably end up deleted. 

You can nominate anyone you want.  To keep this from being a list of who likes who, several individuals that are generally considered excellent at the game will moderate the list.  If those individuals generally agree, a player can be removed or promoted in the list.

I've decided on 4 categories of players and have provided descriptions of each.  Please recommend players along with the category you feel they fit in.

Tier 1 Demigod Players:

Realistically, its my belief that there are 10-30 players in this game that are tier 1 DG players (the best). Those players shine as individuals, generally with a wide variety of characters and do not depend on a specific team or teammate to do well.  They can play exceptionally in 1v1, 2v2, 3v3, 4v4, and 5v5.  These are players that do not cheat or desync games.  These are the people that you want on your team or you want to play against because you know you will get a good game.  Any player in this list or any other should currently be an active player.  

  • abuggeredhedgie/awuffleablehedgie
  • cowbuttzex
  • kalelsmx
  • GM-Janook
  • gm-magnus333
  • GM-Mcshane
  • GM-Mithrander
  • GM-NinkiCZ
  • GM-Renz0kuken
  • GM-Zen_God
  • Nomilarac
  • Orcun
  • OMG-pacov
  • Paulie Carbone
  • RAWRRRR
  • ThatGuyYoulove/ boxxy_Koush
  • trousersnake

Tier 2 Demigod Players:

These are players that don't quite currently fit into highest level of players, but are good players all the same.  Perhaps they require a specific team or can only do well in specific types of games (1v1, 2v2).  The bottom line is that they aren't quite as polished or versatile as the highest level players. 

  • 2nana
  • Alterschism 
  • Amazing_Hero (oak)
  • Archon_SAAR (regulus!)
  • Atma44x (torch bearer)
  • captnspaulding
  • Celmare
  • Darz4 (qot)
  • DD_Karebears
  • Epiphenomenon (beast)
  • Esuzu
  • eXXcentric
  • Grahf666
  • IamKira
  • _illuminati_
  • Iokke
  • irek1988/never-fuk-wit-a-oak
  • Jaws8you
  • Jona__
  • Jongalt26
  • Ke5trel
  • Kitty007
  • Kollecktir
  • Lethstang (oak + ub)
  • lifekatana
  • LuftBR
  • Maccilia
  • Naur (oak + da + reg)
  • Obiwhan
  • Ogham
  • peterdumptruck
  • prozombie
  • Shred_demon (demon assassin)
  • Soccer-mom
  • spooky_
  • STFNG
  • Teseer (tb)
  • Thundercles
  • xXxXxAchillesTGxXxX
  • Xynth
  • yeahneil
  • Zoahr

Tier 3 Demigod Players:

A third group (or list) would be everyone else. No need to list individuals...

Demigod Players that Should Be Avoided:

These would be specific individuals that clearly (and I mean clearly) cheat.  You don't get on this list unless I (pacov) am VERY convinced that you belong here.

  • AlienWarrior - This player should be avoided.  Stat exploiter confirmed by pacov.  As of 1/5/2010, this player has 34 wins and 0 losses and is ladder ranked 34.  I played a game with him in a 1v1 with him as the host.  After confirming that the player spoke English, I asked him if he would let the stats count if I beat him (there is currently a simple exploit that enables any host in a 1v1 game to make the game disappear if they don't want the stats to be kept - Also note that this player plays almost exclusively 1v1 games).  The player did not respond to my question.  As I began to tear down both sides of the player's base, he used the stat exploit and the game vanished as a result.  The player used this exploit with about 10 minutes left in the game.  Based on his stats and skill level (read: not highly skilled), this player is clearly exploiting the stat system.
  • PrizmSmurf - This player should be avoided.  Stat exploiter and poor sport confirmed by pacov on 4/1/2010.  After losing in a 2v2 matchup, PrizmSmurf said "I hope you die a long slow death of cancer.  I mean it."  Then said, "Bet you are going to enjoy watching me desync."  Then, just before the citadel went down, desynced the game. Based on his stats, he clearly does not desync games on a regular basis, but wishing cancer on someone because they beat you in a game and then committing the one offense in demigod that can get you banned (saying you are desycning then desyncing) is a bit over the top.  I suggest you avoid him. 

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on May 04, 2010

^I've mentioned his name a few pages back but like I said, while he belongs in Tier 2, he probably could care less cause his own list would be completely different.

An arrogant attitude invites this kinda stuff. Just sayin.

He's not arrogant, he's confident in my opinion.

on May 04, 2010

_Jona tier 1, best Reg I've ever played with and I've played with most of the people on the list. His snipers are perfection, and as such is an indication of his overall game awareness.

The 1st time I ever played with him on my team, we got accused of being a pre because of his inescapably fatal timing.

on May 04, 2010

was he playing with Coin Purse?  I hear Coin Purse Reg is OP so it might not count ^^

on May 04, 2010

=P

edit: I'd like to say that I can't even tell my kid my favorite Bible story now because Jona__ has ruined it for me. Now I'll have to say. And then, when the whale ate him, all he had was his coin purse.

on May 06, 2010

i think u should add maxsteel32. I watched his last game in tournament and he's good as DA. He does lot of job, nice gank, help his team mate, etc.

on May 06, 2010

I'm actually thinking of getting some feedback after the tournament is complete and perhaps shaking this list up quite a bit.  I don't have any real objections to bumping him to tier 2, though.  Anyone have reservations?

on May 06, 2010

Come on vent RIGHT NOW if you want live commentary of the Mith & Renz vs. Kollecktir & Naur battle.

on May 06, 2010

You guys should consider Atma to Tier1.  Best TB (good UB also) IMO.

I believe he had 8 kills 0 Death on our first game with Cow/Jaws, again keeping their portals locked even on 2v1 with ice stun/lock/run.

Also he does most of the cita upgrades, carries cheap/minimal gears and still does well.

 

And Stanlord is definitely a tier1/2 player.

He plays all demis well and all around nice guy!

on May 07, 2010

You guys should consider Atma to Tier1.  Best TB (good UB also) IMO.

I believe he had 8 kills 0 Death on our first game with Cow/Jaws, again keeping their portals locked even on 2v1 with ice stun/lock/run.

Also he does most of the cita upgrades, carries cheap/minimal gears and still does well.

 

And Stanlord is definitely a tier1/2 player.

He plays all demis well and all around nice guy!

That game in my opinion doesn't count, Atma played like crap in the game you desync'd.

I agree with Stanlords nomination.

on May 07, 2010

Cowbuttzex



Quoting ba294,
reply 1238
You guys should consider Atma to Tier1.  Best TB (good UB also) IMO.

I believe he had 8 kills 0 Death on our first game with Cow/Jaws, again keeping their portals locked even on 2v1 with ice stun/lock/run.

Also he does most of the cita upgrades, carries cheap/minimal gears and still does well.

 

And Stanlord is definitely a tier1/2 player.

He plays all demis well and all around nice guy!



That game in my opinion doesn't count, Atma played like crap in the game you desync'd.

I agree with Stanlords nomination.

 

He was actually doing good.  3 kills 2 deaths.(1death in the first minute of the game was due to his bad judgement)

Just had a game with Orcun for the first time in 6months....this guy is sick.  He needs his own tier group.

on May 07, 2010

You guys should consider Atma to Tier1. Best TB (good UB also) IMO.

Being awesome with 1 character generally isn't good enough for this list imo... or at least its hard to get to tier 1 if you are the best _______.    I was VERY impressed with atma in cow/jaws v atma/ba's last game though. 

re: stanlord - I played on and off with him while he was a newer player... i think I played a game with him about a month ago... i could maybe see tier 2, but not 1.  He could have gotten downright awesome since I've seen him last though. 

Cow - why do you agree with stan's nomination?  for tier 1 or 2?

on May 07, 2010


You guys should consider Atma to Tier1. Best TB (good UB also) IMO.


Being awesome with 1 character generally isn't good enough for this list imo... or at least its hard to get to tier 1 if you are the best _______.    I was VERY impressed with atma in cow/jaws v atma/ba's last game though. 

re: stanlord - I played on and off with him while he was a newer player... i think I played a game with him about a month ago... i could maybe see tier 2, but not 1.  He could have gotten downright awesome since I've seen him last though. 

Cow - why do you agree with stan's nomination?  for tier 1 or 2?

 

i think he meant tier 2.

Also when I was moving past the mid map, atma constantly had to guide me since I dont get to see the opponents port in (weird glitch even without alt-tab).  I agree regarding diversity of demi play

on May 07, 2010

disagreed on Atma for tier1.  Definitely tier2 tho.  

Dunno about Maxsteel for tier2.  He's not terrible, but there are people in Tier2 I'd put way above him.  In fact, looking @ Tier2, that list is very long and the players are varied in terms of skill.  I would almost think of adding another tier... tier 1.5 if people don't want to be bumped down to Tier 3 (different from what it currently is).  

on May 07, 2010

I actually have some similar ideas regarding redesigning tiers to more accurately reflect skill levels... Even a simple 1.5 might be adequate. 

Edit - without actually discussing who would move to a specific tier at the moment, why not discuss again what tier distinctions might be appropriate.  Feedback welcomed/desired. 

Any tier will need to have a very clear, very specific definition.  I wonder if we should have some sort of separate category for the players that typically only play as 1 character, but do so exceedingly well.  When I see players like this, I generally think in the negative - my team selection is limited.  As such, that would generally drop players that have the talent for the highest tier (but create a certain amount of inflexibility in a team) to a lower tier.  Any ideas on how to compensate for this? 

So, the intial, basic proposal would be to create one additional tier fitting between tier 1 and tier 2 called 1.5.  Logically, we should just add another rounded tier into the mix (eg t1,t2,t3,t4), but I think the 1.5 would help initially with people feeling slighted.  Its easier to accept moving from tier 1 to 1.5 and feels nice surely to go from tier 2 to tier 1.5 (instead of dropping all of the tier 2's to tier 3, then elevating some of them, etc). 

Also - I don't want to get too over the top, but some players are tacticians, some require a support characters to play there best, some have awesome map awareness, etc.  I personally see tacticians as having a higher value, but perhaps I should leave thoughts like that out of the tier list.  For me, the truly highest level players in this game are tacticians able to play all/just about all characters extremely well.  These are the guys that have great map awareness and port in when appropriate and call off ports when there is no point in coming.  They flash ports quickly/frequently to back away opponents from flags/towers.  They buy cit upgrades and kit upgrades as appropriate.  Possess good strategies for XvX for early/mid/late game.  They are adaptive enough to adjust their style of play if it isn't working based on the team they are on.  They pick appropriate dgs to compliment their team.  They plan traps in game to goad players to follow.  They... use sigils.  They aren't feeding the other team.  They understand the math and reasoning behind getting cit upgrades at certain points. 

on May 07, 2010

I hate stuff like this.

You have the truly skilled and tactical players.  Those can push a lane with Reg alone. The TB that UB has to run from every time.  Etc.

Then you have the players that won't touch a game unless it's in their favor, their teammates are on vent, and/or they use a DG and build that will cover up the small mistakes that separate them from top category.

 

I've played with/against Jona and found him quite good, but not in some haloed tier.

I've also played with/against some of the "tier 1" players, and would say the exact same. 

 

But I'm in a minority of gamers.  If you just play damn good and for fun, I think you're cool and "tier 1".  If you play games like it's your f*cking job, you're a loser.  Try yelling at your mom for meatloaf or something.

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