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Well, I started a thread  back in August (https://forums.joeuser.com/411269/) that's seen a lot of activity and actually had quite a few good bits of information for new and old players alike.  I figure it's time to start a new thread and perhaps keep the OP up-to-date with useful information, etc.  Feel free to use this post for any LoL discussion, etc.

Super fast background:  I played a lot of Demigod as pacov/cheesuscrust.  Back in August 2011 or so, I started getting heavily involved in LoL and folks have been kind enough to chime in with tips and links to various sites that have been quite useful to me.  In addition, I've been able to keep up with folks that I've played Demigod with in the past and meet some new folks that play LoL and frequent these message boards. 

Here's some of the things I've learned in the previous thread:

 New Player tips

  • Play the tutorial.
  • Consider picking up the starter bundle.  It's 530 RP (that's about $4).  You get 8 champs unlocked, a 4 win IP boost and a 10 win XP boost.  It's a pretty good deal (used it recently on an alt account).  You can find it in the game store under bundles.
  • Riot gives you 400 RP as soon as you hit level 5.  It's enough to buy some skins, a boost, or a cheap character. 
  • Learn to last hit!  Last hitting is simply landing the last hit on creeps.  If you last hit, you get gold for that kill.  The number of creeps you have killed is tracked in a value called CS.  You can see this number in the top right hand corner of the ui or by pressing tab.  Here's a really simple tutorial re: last hitting if you are brand new - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LheiRB76x5g
  • Read some guides on any character you want to try out.  The recommended builds (what you see when you go to a shop) are not optimal.  The guides include item suggestions and skill orders.  These are very useful in learning decent ways to build characters
  • Use the rune combiner to get level 3 runes prior to level 20 if you like.  You will need 375 IP.  Buy any tier 1 rune that costs 15 IP.  You need to purchase 25 of these.  Click on your rune page.  In the bottom right hand corner there is a button called the Rune Combiner.  If you place 5 runes in there, you can get a random rune that is 1 tier higher (eg if you have 5 tier 1 runes, you will get 1 random tier 2 rune.  Anyway, the math works out such that you spend 375 IP ( buy 25 tier 1 15 IP runes) and you get 1 completely random tier 3 rune.  Some of the quintessences are 2k IP, so if you luck out and get one of those, you just won the lottery.  You can always keep the random tier 2 rune if you end up with something good and don't want to trade it out yet.
  • Consider setting aside IP for tier 3 runes (available at level 20 and above).  You can't purchase them with real money - only IP.  Keep that in mind.

Great site I visit every day for LoL related news - http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends

pacov's misc info

Here's a guide I made

pacov's Guide to Improving at League of Legends and Moving Up in Elo

k - so I'm just going to put down some of my thoughts.  I'm not amazing at this game, but I do certain things that improve my odds of winning in ranked and so far its panning out just fine (bronze 5 to gold 5 in about a month or so).  We all have varied skill levels, so some of this might be useful and some not.  Caveat complete.

Prerequisite- you need to know how to play every single role.  You don't have to be a god at every single role (more power to you if you are - I'm certainly not).  You need to be able to play at a serviceable level in every single role and excel at least at 1 role (preferably 2).  In my case, I'm good at support and adc.  I'm not great, but have serviceable mids and jungles and so so tops.  Knowing what you are good at and bad at is very important.  If you don't know, I can probably tell you - but you really should know...  Anyway, you need to have enough champs to make solid picks in any role and you need to be able to cover any role if it comes down to it.  I'll talk about how to get better at specific roles in a bit.

Champ select advice - Don't be the "fill" guy unless you really feel like you are awesome in all roles.  Call your preferred role immediately when you hit the lobby.  Say "adc pref."  Do this as soon as you hit the lobby.  Some people believe that if you call a role you magically get it.  This is stupid, but if you call something out, folks will often accomodate your request.  If you are feeling wishy washy for whatever reason, call out multiple roles in order of what you want to play - "adc/mid pref."  In my experience, you generally do not want to call support.  It's a very important role, but you want to be in a position to carry every single game if possible.  If you aren't calling out a role, you are hoping that other players can carry you.  If you are hoping that folks will carry you, you don't deserve to win.  You need to know your best roles and you absolutely should request them.

Solo or duo in ranked? - Well, my 1st thought here is that you should solo.  If you solo, you have to rely on yourself.  IMO - its a much bigger test of skill to play solo and win than to duo.  Do you want someone to carry you or do you really want to know that you are actually good?  That said, provided you have the right duo partner, you can increase your odds of winning quite a bit.  The simple math is that instead of having 4 teammates as unknown quantities, you only have 3.  If you have a good duo teammate, you know what you can expect.  When you duo, you get the most bang for your buck by having complimentary roles.  Support/adc is good; jungle/mid also works.  Even if you don't have direct symmetry in roles, if you are an amazing mid and I'm an amazing adc, our odds go up quite a bit if we both get those roles.  Our odds go way down if we can't get those roles and are forced to play out of positions that we are weaker.  For example, Bryff is a good mid.  If he duo's up with me, the only way he will get to play that role is for me to call mid, take it myself, and then put myself into a position like support where I can't carry out of (I'm always 1st pick, Bryff is always last pick when we duo)... that and I have to show the mid I'm picking at the start which means Bryff gets hard countered.  In short, we can expect that we will be a disadvantage when duo queuing.  Now, if Bryff queued up with someone at a lower elo than himself that was solid, he'd likely be 1st pick and be able to get mid and have a better chance of carrying the game.  Anyway, you need to keep in mind where you end up in pick order when duoing if you aren't looking to go adc/support.  If you want that, you can usually get it. 

How do you get better in roles that you are not good at? - Well, here's what I do.  And this is really what I do on a regular basis.  I think about what I'm good at and what I'm not good at.  For instance, I realized that I don't play any hyper carry ads.  So, I read up on hyper carries like vayne and kog maw.  I look for guides on how to build them (most adcs are the same btw ), I look for vids on how people play them (eg how do I all in with a specific champ - is there a combo - when do I all in - what's the best way for me to burst - how should I behave in lane with this champ).  Then, I fire up a custom game and try out the mechanics of whatever champ vs AI.  Usually I learn a few tricks during that custom on how to position myself, etc.  Then, I'm off to normal games where I'll request the role or character I'm trying out.  Now, people still report your for being awful in normals, but it really is where you need to try out characters to see if you are any good or not as the bots are useless for proving your skill level to yourself.  So, fire up that normal and ask to play a role (again - after you've tried out the champ against bots).  If you don't know anyone you are with and you are quite awful, I suggest muting everyone at the start of the game.  Then, do your best.  Continue with this until you feel like you have a serviceable skill level in whatever role.  And keep in mind what you need to work on.  For me, I noticed I didn't really have alot of mids for ranked, so I started practicing some with gragas against and karth.  That way, I'll be able to get the job done if I need to play mid.  The next thing I need to do is put more time into being better top lane. Again, because while I prefer adc/support, I might need to play top for the team.  So, best to be ready for it.  Put your time in and practice roles. 

One last thought - there are certain things you can generally expect in ranked.  1 - if you are 1st pick, you generally can call whatever you want.  Common knowledge, I'm sure - but I'll add - CALL WHATEVER YOU WANT.  2 - if you duo queue, you generally can lock down both adc and support.  It works best if your adc is 1st pick, ofc.  I've bumped into like 10 random dedicated supports in all of my games of LoL.  People generally aren't going to call support. So, if you are 1st pick and duo'd, just call adc and then your duo partner can almost always get support.

 

Lol King profiles for ranked tracking

I'm not going to update this regularly, so just consider it a snapshot (I'll add a date when I update them).  Anyway, I enjoy seeing folks progress through ranked and keeping tabs on that sort of thing from time to time. 

Snapshot updated 05/28/2014

 Character guides

Mid Ziggs by cow - http://www.lolking.net/guides/7906

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on Oct 18, 2012

Wow, HUGE changes coming to PBE detailed in this unofficial change log: http://www.reignofgaming.net/news/22043-unoffical-pbe-changes-for-10-18-2012-splash

So they have remade Twisted Treeline plus added several new specific items for the map. May be worth checking out!

Some champ changes:

 

Blitzcrank

  • Health: Now 423 (95 ), (was  468 (100 )

Sona

  • Health: now 340(+70) , (was 380 (70 ))
  • Armor is now 8(+3.3), (was (3.))

Ezreal

  • [W] - Essence Flux: No longer slows enemy attack speed

 

The nerf to Blitzcrank is stupid to me. If they are making it easier for supports to get gold, you will be able to buy more tankyness with him anyways. His strength mainly comes from well coordinated teams, so nerfing his health will do nothing to change that. So what if he dies a little sooner, it's irrelevant if he still got all his abilities off and tanked all the damage. If people are stupid enough to get pulled at lvl 1, they should be punished for it.

 

They also detail the nerf to DFG:

Deathfire Grasp (old)

+80 Ability Power
UNIQUE
Passive: +15% Cooldown Reduction
UNIQUE
Active: Deals magic damage to target champion equal to 25% of their current Health (+4% per 100 Ability Power)with a minimum of 200 damage (60 second cooldown).

Deathfire Grasp (new)

+80 Ability Power
UNIQUE
Active: Deals magic damage to target champion equal to 15% of their current Health (+5% per 100 Ability Power)with a minimum of 200 damage (60 second cooldown).


So the 15% CD reduction is gone as well as a hefty nerf to the base dmg and a small buff in ability power scaling.

on Oct 18, 2012

jebus - PBE is overloaded.  26 minute queue time.

I'm going to give this little program a go - take a look

also, this is just awesome

on Oct 18, 2012

Looks like Ezreal is going to drop like a stone in usefulness again. I remember about 2 months ago when he was a "troll" pick for ADC until someone discovered his W is actually useful. Now they are removing the useful part and he is just a good early game carry with an escape and a shitty late game. It looks like the top ADCs after this patch will be Vayne, Graves, Caitlyn, and maybe Corki. (While I like Varus and Kog, neither of them are viable without a team built to keep the enemy Bruiser off of them.)

The Deathfire Grasp nerf is also silly imo. It allowed mages to actually do their job against bruisers who stacked health (i.e. Frozen Mallet, Warmogs, Singed, Mundo, etc.). Now you need 1000 AP to even match the damage pre nerf when riot said that they are "Making it better at its intented purpose" which was killing tanks. However, it is now worse at this in every single way! (getting over 1k AP is never a good thing for 2 reasons: A. Builds that give you over 1000 AP are awful and give little else, and B. The game really shouldn't be lasting long enough to have that much money to waste anyway.)

I disagree with the Sona nerf. I know that she needs nerfs and am personally all for them, but a base health nerfs is stupid in all ways. The problem with sona is her insane range and damage early game with heals to negate any poke you do manage to hit her with. Unless you are Blitz and grab her or Taric and stun her, she is impossible to kill in lane. This will only further augment her late game problems mainly being she is instantly blown up by bruisers.

I suppose I have been building up to a single point with this post. Riot needs to push the top lane changes out and they need to push them out ASAP. Bruisers are almost impossible to defeat straight up as any other class unless you just outplay the enemy player (or are fed all to hell). Riot has already stated that they know how broken solo top champions have to be to be viable up there, but they still release them and keep piling work up for themselves. I almost quit when GW2 came out simply because it seemed like they were nerfing all of the good ADCs and it was already unbearable to play that class vs. bruisers. However, my LoL addiction (and everyone quiting GW2...) eventually made me come back.

All in all I hope Riot manages to keep their word and balance top lane by the start of Season 3.

on Oct 18, 2012

FTFY

OMG_Shiro
It looks like the top ADCs after this patch will be draven, draven, draven, and maybe dravoon.

I'm finally logged into pbe.  Going to stream a little bit while I putz around.

 

http://www.twitch.tv/1pacov1

 

on Oct 19, 2012

I'm on vacation but it looks like some awesome changes are waiting when I get back...

Fortunately I have streams to watch to give me my LoL fix and recordings of you guys throwing 4v5s to keep me entertained until I get back.  Thanks for that! 

on Oct 19, 2012

Thundercles
nd recordings of you guys throwing 4v5s to keep me entertained until I get back.

we aim to please. 

on Oct 19, 2012

"I needed an item."

on Oct 19, 2012

It was a really important item.

on Oct 19, 2012
on Oct 20, 2012

fun games tonight - thx everyone.  If you like watching games and listening to in game chat, I have my stream setup to record the matches, so you can check them out if you like at your leisure.  Just a reminder, but I'm only doing the stream for folks that enjoy that sort of thing and I have no intention of advertising it outside of here.  I don't really care if I have viewers, but I think folks like watching replays with audio from the team or watching the stream live.  So, feel free to check it out if you are interested.  I'll likely knock if off if folks don't seem all that interested after a bit.  From what I've seen on twitch, you can subscribe to the channel and then get an email if I "announce" that I'm streaming.  If any of you subscribe, I'll start doing that so you can see when I'm streaming if you are interested.  Anyway, my thrilling steam is out there.    Night all!

 

edit - here's a particularly fun one from tonight - http://www.twitch.tv/1pacov1/b/336186855

 

on Oct 20, 2012

Streaming.

on Oct 21, 2012

Think I might make a new thread soon that's just about the game and will include a link for my stream.  Seems like I'm streaming the same time most days.  Anyway, streaming now.  Hit me up if you are around and we'll play some.

on Oct 22, 2012

Watched your last game.

Saw you guys getting upset with Sona and I gotta disagree with you and Karl's perspective. 

You told her not to roam on her own when she safely managed to ward Baron at a point where it needed a ward.  At the end, you guys were pissed when she tried to fight off the two lanes of super minions that were attacking the nexus turrets when you all wanted to defend a Baron.  IMO the game was already lost and you had two choices: you could have fought a battle at Baron and let your nexus die, or stall the hordes of super minions and let them come finish you off after they got the Baron buff.

Not sure how someone deserves a "Griefing: Assisting Enemy Team" report for trying to save a nexus.  Whether it was the wrong move or not, it was done with good intentions I think...

 

on Oct 22, 2012

pacov got mad at end sona soled.  Karl's prob pissy about other things.

 

fu my iPad hate autocorrect

on Oct 22, 2012

Thundercles
Watched your last game.

Saw you guys getting upset with Sona and I gotta disagree with you and Karl's perspective. 

You told her not to roam on her own when she safely managed to ward Baron at a point where it needed a ward.  At the end, you guys were pissed when she tried to fight off the two lanes of super minions that were attacking the nexus turrets when you all wanted to defend a Baron.  IMO the game was already lost and you had two choices: you could have fought a battle at Baron and let your nexus die, or stall the hordes of super minions and let them come finish you off after they got the Baron buff.

Not sure how someone deserves a "Griefing: Assisting Enemy Team" report for trying to save a nexus.  Whether it was the wrong move or not, it was done with good intentions I think...

I dont think that anybody reported Sona, but it was 100% the wrong choice on her part.

You are right that at that point in time we had two options: defend baron or defend nexus.  However, whichever one we did, we must act as a team.  If all 5 don't do the same thing, it is completely hopeless since you cannot accomplish anything.

Because Sona decided to ignore the other 4 people on her team, we couldn't defend baron.  And because it's Sona, she couldn't defend the nexus from super minions.  Therefore, Sona essentially accomplished neither team goal and prevented her team from accomplishing either goal as well.

This is a classic mistake that people make - they see something as the "right" decision and do what they think is right over what the team is doing.  This simply does not work late game - it is MUCH better to do the wrong thing as a team than the right thing as an individual.  People who play like that consistently and repeatedly lose the games for their teams.  Sona pretty consistently did this - she was always off doing her own thing, which was really hurting us because they were 5 strong much of the time.

BTW, I was also personally inclined to do what Sona was doing there.  But Pacov and the rest wanted to defend baron.  I don't think that either was really the wrong choice, but the team had to make one.  Therefore, since 3 were defending baron, I played as a team.  Well, until I saw Sona wasn't there, then I left because it was clear that we couldn't defend baron with 4.

 

Sona's ward was also bad.  We needed to be together as a team there and we know where multiple people were on their team.  At that point in the game, they needed all 5 to baron, so the ward wasn't urgently needed.  Being together as a team was urgently needed however.  Sona also got repeatedly picked off by roaming on her own (as did everybody else, including me), so we didn't want anybody roaming since it wasn't working.  However, once again, we couldn't be together as 5 because Sona decided to do something else.

 

Also, I'd like to have a policy of no split pushing if Peter is in the game.  Even if its the "right" thing to do, it relies on the rest of your team not doing something stupid.  It just don't work with Peter - he needs to have his team supporting him.  Pacov had the right idea when he was split pushing with Jayce, but the problem is that Sona and Peter just couldn't handle that and were randomly dying.

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