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Well, I started a thread  back in August (https://forums.joeuser.com/411269/) that's seen a lot of activity and actually had quite a few good bits of information for new and old players alike.  I figure it's time to start a new thread and perhaps keep the OP up-to-date with useful information, etc.  Feel free to use this post for any LoL discussion, etc.

Super fast background:  I played a lot of Demigod as pacov/cheesuscrust.  Back in August 2011 or so, I started getting heavily involved in LoL and folks have been kind enough to chime in with tips and links to various sites that have been quite useful to me.  In addition, I've been able to keep up with folks that I've played Demigod with in the past and meet some new folks that play LoL and frequent these message boards. 

Here's some of the things I've learned in the previous thread:

 New Player tips

  • Play the tutorial.
  • Consider picking up the starter bundle.  It's 530 RP (that's about $4).  You get 8 champs unlocked, a 4 win IP boost and a 10 win XP boost.  It's a pretty good deal (used it recently on an alt account).  You can find it in the game store under bundles.
  • Riot gives you 400 RP as soon as you hit level 5.  It's enough to buy some skins, a boost, or a cheap character. 
  • Learn to last hit!  Last hitting is simply landing the last hit on creeps.  If you last hit, you get gold for that kill.  The number of creeps you have killed is tracked in a value called CS.  You can see this number in the top right hand corner of the ui or by pressing tab.  Here's a really simple tutorial re: last hitting if you are brand new - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LheiRB76x5g
  • Read some guides on any character you want to try out.  The recommended builds (what you see when you go to a shop) are not optimal.  The guides include item suggestions and skill orders.  These are very useful in learning decent ways to build characters
  • Use the rune combiner to get level 3 runes prior to level 20 if you like.  You will need 375 IP.  Buy any tier 1 rune that costs 15 IP.  You need to purchase 25 of these.  Click on your rune page.  In the bottom right hand corner there is a button called the Rune Combiner.  If you place 5 runes in there, you can get a random rune that is 1 tier higher (eg if you have 5 tier 1 runes, you will get 1 random tier 2 rune.  Anyway, the math works out such that you spend 375 IP ( buy 25 tier 1 15 IP runes) and you get 1 completely random tier 3 rune.  Some of the quintessences are 2k IP, so if you luck out and get one of those, you just won the lottery.  You can always keep the random tier 2 rune if you end up with something good and don't want to trade it out yet.
  • Consider setting aside IP for tier 3 runes (available at level 20 and above).  You can't purchase them with real money - only IP.  Keep that in mind.

Great site I visit every day for LoL related news - http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends

pacov's misc info

Here's a guide I made

pacov's Guide to Improving at League of Legends and Moving Up in Elo

k - so I'm just going to put down some of my thoughts.  I'm not amazing at this game, but I do certain things that improve my odds of winning in ranked and so far its panning out just fine (bronze 5 to gold 5 in about a month or so).  We all have varied skill levels, so some of this might be useful and some not.  Caveat complete.

Prerequisite- you need to know how to play every single role.  You don't have to be a god at every single role (more power to you if you are - I'm certainly not).  You need to be able to play at a serviceable level in every single role and excel at least at 1 role (preferably 2).  In my case, I'm good at support and adc.  I'm not great, but have serviceable mids and jungles and so so tops.  Knowing what you are good at and bad at is very important.  If you don't know, I can probably tell you - but you really should know...  Anyway, you need to have enough champs to make solid picks in any role and you need to be able to cover any role if it comes down to it.  I'll talk about how to get better at specific roles in a bit.

Champ select advice - Don't be the "fill" guy unless you really feel like you are awesome in all roles.  Call your preferred role immediately when you hit the lobby.  Say "adc pref."  Do this as soon as you hit the lobby.  Some people believe that if you call a role you magically get it.  This is stupid, but if you call something out, folks will often accomodate your request.  If you are feeling wishy washy for whatever reason, call out multiple roles in order of what you want to play - "adc/mid pref."  In my experience, you generally do not want to call support.  It's a very important role, but you want to be in a position to carry every single game if possible.  If you aren't calling out a role, you are hoping that other players can carry you.  If you are hoping that folks will carry you, you don't deserve to win.  You need to know your best roles and you absolutely should request them.

Solo or duo in ranked? - Well, my 1st thought here is that you should solo.  If you solo, you have to rely on yourself.  IMO - its a much bigger test of skill to play solo and win than to duo.  Do you want someone to carry you or do you really want to know that you are actually good?  That said, provided you have the right duo partner, you can increase your odds of winning quite a bit.  The simple math is that instead of having 4 teammates as unknown quantities, you only have 3.  If you have a good duo teammate, you know what you can expect.  When you duo, you get the most bang for your buck by having complimentary roles.  Support/adc is good; jungle/mid also works.  Even if you don't have direct symmetry in roles, if you are an amazing mid and I'm an amazing adc, our odds go up quite a bit if we both get those roles.  Our odds go way down if we can't get those roles and are forced to play out of positions that we are weaker.  For example, Bryff is a good mid.  If he duo's up with me, the only way he will get to play that role is for me to call mid, take it myself, and then put myself into a position like support where I can't carry out of (I'm always 1st pick, Bryff is always last pick when we duo)... that and I have to show the mid I'm picking at the start which means Bryff gets hard countered.  In short, we can expect that we will be a disadvantage when duo queuing.  Now, if Bryff queued up with someone at a lower elo than himself that was solid, he'd likely be 1st pick and be able to get mid and have a better chance of carrying the game.  Anyway, you need to keep in mind where you end up in pick order when duoing if you aren't looking to go adc/support.  If you want that, you can usually get it. 

How do you get better in roles that you are not good at? - Well, here's what I do.  And this is really what I do on a regular basis.  I think about what I'm good at and what I'm not good at.  For instance, I realized that I don't play any hyper carry ads.  So, I read up on hyper carries like vayne and kog maw.  I look for guides on how to build them (most adcs are the same btw ), I look for vids on how people play them (eg how do I all in with a specific champ - is there a combo - when do I all in - what's the best way for me to burst - how should I behave in lane with this champ).  Then, I fire up a custom game and try out the mechanics of whatever champ vs AI.  Usually I learn a few tricks during that custom on how to position myself, etc.  Then, I'm off to normal games where I'll request the role or character I'm trying out.  Now, people still report your for being awful in normals, but it really is where you need to try out characters to see if you are any good or not as the bots are useless for proving your skill level to yourself.  So, fire up that normal and ask to play a role (again - after you've tried out the champ against bots).  If you don't know anyone you are with and you are quite awful, I suggest muting everyone at the start of the game.  Then, do your best.  Continue with this until you feel like you have a serviceable skill level in whatever role.  And keep in mind what you need to work on.  For me, I noticed I didn't really have alot of mids for ranked, so I started practicing some with gragas against and karth.  That way, I'll be able to get the job done if I need to play mid.  The next thing I need to do is put more time into being better top lane. Again, because while I prefer adc/support, I might need to play top for the team.  So, best to be ready for it.  Put your time in and practice roles. 

One last thought - there are certain things you can generally expect in ranked.  1 - if you are 1st pick, you generally can call whatever you want.  Common knowledge, I'm sure - but I'll add - CALL WHATEVER YOU WANT.  2 - if you duo queue, you generally can lock down both adc and support.  It works best if your adc is 1st pick, ofc.  I've bumped into like 10 random dedicated supports in all of my games of LoL.  People generally aren't going to call support. So, if you are 1st pick and duo'd, just call adc and then your duo partner can almost always get support.

 

Lol King profiles for ranked tracking

I'm not going to update this regularly, so just consider it a snapshot (I'll add a date when I update them).  Anyway, I enjoy seeing folks progress through ranked and keeping tabs on that sort of thing from time to time. 

Snapshot updated 05/28/2014

 Character guides

Mid Ziggs by cow - http://www.lolking.net/guides/7906

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on Oct 24, 2012

I won another ranked game.  It must be dumb luck.  Or I'm cursed.

It's usually not that much of a curse to win ranked games, eh?    Congrats. 

Peter's runes made me LOL for a good 3 minutes, thanks.

As it is with many things and Peter, I have no idea tbh.  The reason I took a look at his runes the other day was that he was going on about how he doesn't even have good runes... and my brain was like - well, you've played like 10,000 games of LoL.  Primarily as a mid.  How do you not have good runes?  The answer is something along the lines of him being a low elo without any hope of getting out of that.  That's why he doesn't have a normal mage page.  He even indicated that he knows what a decent mage rune set would be.  Anywho... maybe I'll be able to convince him to get a proper page setup. 

on Oct 24, 2012

The one time I went against Peter mid he was eating me.  Maybe he's a pro with a bad runes disguise.

on Oct 24, 2012

General

  • The Dragon's burning damage will no longer disrupt players from Recalling
  • Item cooldowns will now be displayed in a similar color blue to spell cooldowns.

 

Best two changes this patch!

on Oct 24, 2012

OMG_Shiro
The Dragon's burning damage will no longer disrupt players from Recalling

honestly I don't know why they would change this one... kind of makes sense.  You get hit by a teemo mushroom, you can't recall while still taking damage.  Seems like it should be the same with dragon. 

methinks i'll be on soon... like 5 min left in queue.  Supposedly problems caused on NA lol servers by Brazilian douchebag. 

streaming

on Oct 24, 2012

I got chewed out by an ezreal for being too passive...he's like "be more aggressive".  So what do I do?  Well, I go up and stun varus, shatter him....well as I expected we proceeded to die.  Then he says that I suck.  Well I made a few mistakes that game, but then later he's still on me.  We had a jayce that kept diving everywhere so we got into some 4v5s.  They died so I just backed off and he's like "wtf....".  Well what can a support do in a 4v5?  can't damage anyone...  Bleh.  Not fun for me.

on Oct 24, 2012

Ezreal is played by terrible people in general.  And these folks that usually act horribly are very upset that their OP champ is getting a significant nerf, so they're very angry and bitter.  Sorry you had to deal with that...

Seriously though, its a very hard thing to use criticism to make you better.  Sometimes its not delivered in a positive manner, and sometimes its not useful at all because its not true.

That Ezreal might have been right that you needed to be more aggressive or he might have been a jackass who had no idea what the right thing to do in that situation was.  Its hard to know, but the more experience you get the better you'll be able to tell.

I've been in similar situations before and staying passive and riding out the verbal abuse until YOU feel like you have the advantage is usually the right play.  All of a sudden the AD Carry that's been abusing you all game is now enamored with his "pro support" and sends you a friend request because you started turning on the aggression when the time was right to.

Unfortunately there are plenty of pricks out there but some of them are good and know the game well and you can learn things from if you can get past their negative attitudes.  

There are other pricks out there who have never died from anything that was their fault.  They've never had a bad build, made a wrong decision, etc.  Its always the jungler's fault... or their passive support's fault. Recognizing these people and not letting them bring you down or affect your game in the long or short term is really important.

on Oct 24, 2012

The Ez nerf is going to make playing Vayne so easy now. All I need is a corkster ban and Vayne is golden!

on Oct 24, 2012

That's some god stuff

ooh I like that typo

on Oct 24, 2012

I find Vayne is easily countered by intelligent behavior.  Where Ez just appears right near to you with a triple hit right out the door, Vayne has room for a reaction.

 

I main support Kayle, peel her off with Q every time she rolls forward to strike the carry, and avoid making an easy target of yourself next to a wall.  Shut down her ult with yours and you're golden.  Graves is particularly good at dominating the lane in this situation, but even Ashe can do it as long as they play stupid.

 

Nothing can really help a noob carry that gets henpecked or runs when she chases though.  You go all in, or you don't.

on Oct 25, 2012

so Phreak just had this to say:

 

What I can say, though, is that Season 3 has a lot of changes in store for assassins. Armor penetration is going to play nice with itself: % pen is going back before flat pen, meaning Brutalizer + Last Whisper just got a lot sexier

 

on Oct 25, 2012

Also - mayhaps some TT tonight then.  If we could nab 6 of us we could do some in house ones.

edit - also it seems like riot is working again on an official replay system.  http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/122r8m/progress_for_replay_system_hinted_at_in_updated/

Might be nothing tho

on Oct 25, 2012

"The current armor pen values, both percentage and flat, were designed on the assumption that flat came before percentage. A key part of reversing that order is therefore adjusting values as appropriate to avoid exactly the sort of issues you're discussing as a result."

Sounds like they're going to redo the values to balance things out, but I'm guessing it will still be a huge help to AD Casters by scaling the value of their Flat Pen items/runes.  No more "Yay... I bought Void Staff/Last Whisper so now my Haunting Guise/Brutalizer is almost pointless." moments in the game.

Bravo Riot... Season 3 is looking pretty sweet.

on Oct 25, 2012

% pen is going back before flat pen, meaning Brutalizer + Last Whisper just got a lot sexier

I think he's saying that the calcuation will be different going forward resulting in additional damage output.  The calculation as it is that flat armor pen is calculated 1st, then the % armor pen is factored in.  If they reverse the formula to calculate % pen 1st and then flat pen, it will result in additional armor pen and therefore more dmg.  The change will be most beneficial (afaik) to folks that run armor pen runes and pick up a whisper - or go for an AD rune setup and pick up brutalizer and whisper.  So, some additional potential on ADCs and bruisers. 

example - guy has 100 armor.  Let's say you have 20 armor pen and 40% arm pen. The calculation today is that the 20 armor pen would be applied 1st, given the guy 80 effective armor.  Then the 40% arm pen is added - that brings it down to 48 effective armor.

Under the new calc, the 100 armor would be reduced by 40% 1st to bring him down to 60 effective armor.  Then add in the flat armor pen for 40 effective armor. 

So, it might seem like a small difference, but it can get a bit crazy and makes for some interesting choices.

edit - ugh - things seem really smeh on the servers now... lots of weird things happening.  Guess we see what happens...

on Oct 25, 2012

so they've apparently disabled certain champs because it causes crashes - what fun.  I'll be steaming soon in the bug free promised land of lol.

on Oct 26, 2012

off to bed but thx for the games tonight fellas. 

My official challenge to everyone reading this thread.  Convince peter to create an AP rune page that is appropriate for most mages.  That's my next nerd project. 

really good guide on leashing - I think I'll try the dbl golum leash like this going forward.  Bad news if you f it up, but great if you are solid.

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