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Well, I started a thread  back in August (https://forums.joeuser.com/411269/) that's seen a lot of activity and actually had quite a few good bits of information for new and old players alike.  I figure it's time to start a new thread and perhaps keep the OP up-to-date with useful information, etc.  Feel free to use this post for any LoL discussion, etc.

Super fast background:  I played a lot of Demigod as pacov/cheesuscrust.  Back in August 2011 or so, I started getting heavily involved in LoL and folks have been kind enough to chime in with tips and links to various sites that have been quite useful to me.  In addition, I've been able to keep up with folks that I've played Demigod with in the past and meet some new folks that play LoL and frequent these message boards. 

Here's some of the things I've learned in the previous thread:

 New Player tips

  • Play the tutorial.
  • Consider picking up the starter bundle.  It's 530 RP (that's about $4).  You get 8 champs unlocked, a 4 win IP boost and a 10 win XP boost.  It's a pretty good deal (used it recently on an alt account).  You can find it in the game store under bundles.
  • Riot gives you 400 RP as soon as you hit level 5.  It's enough to buy some skins, a boost, or a cheap character. 
  • Learn to last hit!  Last hitting is simply landing the last hit on creeps.  If you last hit, you get gold for that kill.  The number of creeps you have killed is tracked in a value called CS.  You can see this number in the top right hand corner of the ui or by pressing tab.  Here's a really simple tutorial re: last hitting if you are brand new - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LheiRB76x5g
  • Read some guides on any character you want to try out.  The recommended builds (what you see when you go to a shop) are not optimal.  The guides include item suggestions and skill orders.  These are very useful in learning decent ways to build characters
  • Use the rune combiner to get level 3 runes prior to level 20 if you like.  You will need 375 IP.  Buy any tier 1 rune that costs 15 IP.  You need to purchase 25 of these.  Click on your rune page.  In the bottom right hand corner there is a button called the Rune Combiner.  If you place 5 runes in there, you can get a random rune that is 1 tier higher (eg if you have 5 tier 1 runes, you will get 1 random tier 2 rune.  Anyway, the math works out such that you spend 375 IP ( buy 25 tier 1 15 IP runes) and you get 1 completely random tier 3 rune.  Some of the quintessences are 2k IP, so if you luck out and get one of those, you just won the lottery.  You can always keep the random tier 2 rune if you end up with something good and don't want to trade it out yet.
  • Consider setting aside IP for tier 3 runes (available at level 20 and above).  You can't purchase them with real money - only IP.  Keep that in mind.

Great site I visit every day for LoL related news - http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends

pacov's misc info

Here's a guide I made

pacov's Guide to Improving at League of Legends and Moving Up in Elo

k - so I'm just going to put down some of my thoughts.  I'm not amazing at this game, but I do certain things that improve my odds of winning in ranked and so far its panning out just fine (bronze 5 to gold 5 in about a month or so).  We all have varied skill levels, so some of this might be useful and some not.  Caveat complete.

Prerequisite- you need to know how to play every single role.  You don't have to be a god at every single role (more power to you if you are - I'm certainly not).  You need to be able to play at a serviceable level in every single role and excel at least at 1 role (preferably 2).  In my case, I'm good at support and adc.  I'm not great, but have serviceable mids and jungles and so so tops.  Knowing what you are good at and bad at is very important.  If you don't know, I can probably tell you - but you really should know...  Anyway, you need to have enough champs to make solid picks in any role and you need to be able to cover any role if it comes down to it.  I'll talk about how to get better at specific roles in a bit.

Champ select advice - Don't be the "fill" guy unless you really feel like you are awesome in all roles.  Call your preferred role immediately when you hit the lobby.  Say "adc pref."  Do this as soon as you hit the lobby.  Some people believe that if you call a role you magically get it.  This is stupid, but if you call something out, folks will often accomodate your request.  If you are feeling wishy washy for whatever reason, call out multiple roles in order of what you want to play - "adc/mid pref."  In my experience, you generally do not want to call support.  It's a very important role, but you want to be in a position to carry every single game if possible.  If you aren't calling out a role, you are hoping that other players can carry you.  If you are hoping that folks will carry you, you don't deserve to win.  You need to know your best roles and you absolutely should request them.

Solo or duo in ranked? - Well, my 1st thought here is that you should solo.  If you solo, you have to rely on yourself.  IMO - its a much bigger test of skill to play solo and win than to duo.  Do you want someone to carry you or do you really want to know that you are actually good?  That said, provided you have the right duo partner, you can increase your odds of winning quite a bit.  The simple math is that instead of having 4 teammates as unknown quantities, you only have 3.  If you have a good duo teammate, you know what you can expect.  When you duo, you get the most bang for your buck by having complimentary roles.  Support/adc is good; jungle/mid also works.  Even if you don't have direct symmetry in roles, if you are an amazing mid and I'm an amazing adc, our odds go up quite a bit if we both get those roles.  Our odds go way down if we can't get those roles and are forced to play out of positions that we are weaker.  For example, Bryff is a good mid.  If he duo's up with me, the only way he will get to play that role is for me to call mid, take it myself, and then put myself into a position like support where I can't carry out of (I'm always 1st pick, Bryff is always last pick when we duo)... that and I have to show the mid I'm picking at the start which means Bryff gets hard countered.  In short, we can expect that we will be a disadvantage when duo queuing.  Now, if Bryff queued up with someone at a lower elo than himself that was solid, he'd likely be 1st pick and be able to get mid and have a better chance of carrying the game.  Anyway, you need to keep in mind where you end up in pick order when duoing if you aren't looking to go adc/support.  If you want that, you can usually get it. 

How do you get better in roles that you are not good at? - Well, here's what I do.  And this is really what I do on a regular basis.  I think about what I'm good at and what I'm not good at.  For instance, I realized that I don't play any hyper carry ads.  So, I read up on hyper carries like vayne and kog maw.  I look for guides on how to build them (most adcs are the same btw ), I look for vids on how people play them (eg how do I all in with a specific champ - is there a combo - when do I all in - what's the best way for me to burst - how should I behave in lane with this champ).  Then, I fire up a custom game and try out the mechanics of whatever champ vs AI.  Usually I learn a few tricks during that custom on how to position myself, etc.  Then, I'm off to normal games where I'll request the role or character I'm trying out.  Now, people still report your for being awful in normals, but it really is where you need to try out characters to see if you are any good or not as the bots are useless for proving your skill level to yourself.  So, fire up that normal and ask to play a role (again - after you've tried out the champ against bots).  If you don't know anyone you are with and you are quite awful, I suggest muting everyone at the start of the game.  Then, do your best.  Continue with this until you feel like you have a serviceable skill level in whatever role.  And keep in mind what you need to work on.  For me, I noticed I didn't really have alot of mids for ranked, so I started practicing some with gragas against and karth.  That way, I'll be able to get the job done if I need to play mid.  The next thing I need to do is put more time into being better top lane. Again, because while I prefer adc/support, I might need to play top for the team.  So, best to be ready for it.  Put your time in and practice roles. 

One last thought - there are certain things you can generally expect in ranked.  1 - if you are 1st pick, you generally can call whatever you want.  Common knowledge, I'm sure - but I'll add - CALL WHATEVER YOU WANT.  2 - if you duo queue, you generally can lock down both adc and support.  It works best if your adc is 1st pick, ofc.  I've bumped into like 10 random dedicated supports in all of my games of LoL.  People generally aren't going to call support. So, if you are 1st pick and duo'd, just call adc and then your duo partner can almost always get support.

 

Lol King profiles for ranked tracking

I'm not going to update this regularly, so just consider it a snapshot (I'll add a date when I update them).  Anyway, I enjoy seeing folks progress through ranked and keeping tabs on that sort of thing from time to time. 

Snapshot updated 05/28/2014

 Character guides

Mid Ziggs by cow - http://www.lolking.net/guides/7906

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on Dec 07, 2012

let's see...

Ellimist07
I've noticed my summoner level grows after them (I'm at lvl 4 atm), but doesn't the ELO rank grow with summoner level?

There are 2 types of elo in the game.  Normal elo (which you cannot see) and ranked elo, which you can... eventually.  Normal elo is calculated based on wins/losses etc and is the hidden factor that drives matchmaking.  It's not perfect, but the ideal normal game situation would be to have you paired off with 9 other (if you are playing summoner's rift) people that are of the same skill level as you.  So, that's what they do with matchmaking.  Once you hit level 30, you are able to play in ranked games (if you have enough characters unlocked - something like 18 or so - not sure exactly how many, but you'll likely have enough via IP purchases by that time).  You start out ranked play at 1200 elo.  This isn't displayed, but that's what you start out as.  Then you have a total of 10 placement matches.  During those matches, you gain and lose a higher elo amount to try to get you to where you closer to your actual elo without having you win or loss 100 games.  Anyway, you have a bit of a climb to make it to ranked play, but that's ideal as you would likely get your butt whooped if you were able to play ranked games with level 30's now.

Ellimist07
should I stop doing the v. A.I. matches?

Do whatever is fun for you.  There's no harm in trying out normal games.  Actually, you'll eventually learn more about the meta that way "organically."  Really, though, its just a matter of what your preference is.  If you find you are always winning vs AI and want to do something else, by all means, play some normals.  Worst case your normal elo goes down until you are eventually paired with folks of similar skill level.  That's ok, but you'll eventually get out of that - or you'll start playing more with pals and that will raise your elo up, etc.  All this stuff I'm saying about normal elo, though - I wouldn't even think about it.  You can't see the value, so you don't know where you are in comparison to someone else.  So, just play and have fun however you enjoy yourself.  And again, to over stress this - choose not to give a rip about elo in normal games.  Just play for fun and to get better and better. 

Ellimist07
That am I'm pretty sure they don't jungle

Correct, they do not.  But they have many observable patterns.  Once you pick up on them, its easy to know when you'll have a few extra ai's heading your way and so on. 

Ellimist07
I suppose my first question is: in order to better grasp the nuances of gameplay, should I just pick one character and get good with him/her, with maybe a couple different types of builds.

Well, that's kind of difficult to say.  The truth as to why I'm at my skill level is that I've played every single character and understand how they work, what their abiltiies are, etc.  Having done that, I have a good frame of reference.  Then, I focus on mastering particular champions.  For instance, I play a lot of top lane - which is a solo lane in the current meta.  As a result, I focus on trying to get better with characters like Jayce, Malphite, Shen, and singed.  There are plenty of other viable top lane champs, but those are the ones I spend the most time with.  Other things to consider, but more advanced, people can counter pick you once you get to play in draft mode.  This means that let's say your best single character is singed in the top lane.  I could pick jayce and that would counter you pretty hard and make it difficult for you in lane.  The point of what I just said is that its good to have a variety of champs that you are good with in a particular role (top, jungle, mid, adc, support).  While you are just learning though, I'd just suggest trying out whatever you want, learn the mechanics, and then spend a little time playing with whatever character you like best.  

 

re: what character to try to stick with - I'd say just keep playing with whoever you find fun.  If you want to see who plays what champs the most, go here and then click on popularity.  http://www.lolking.net/champions/

 

 

on Dec 07, 2012

Oh - and if I actually make it onto PBE (I'm queued up), I'll stream some of the new champ if anyone's interested.  I'll make a quick post here if/when that happens.  I'll probably only be playing around on PBE for like 20-30 though.

also... this:

on Dec 07, 2012

ok then - if anyone is interested, I'll be streaming in pbe.  Going to check out the new character and look over the new gifting options.  live in 5.  http://www.twitch.tv/1pacov1

 

on Dec 08, 2012

So, just in case you didn't know, stacking black cleavers is current, really, really op.  Try it.

new on pbe...

Black Cleaver
  • Armor Penetration changed to Unique
  • Armor Penetration reduced to 10 from 15
  • Passive effect now reduces armor by 6.25% per stack down from 7.5%

Brutilizer
  • Armor Penetration reduced to 10 from 15.

 

on Dec 10, 2012

What are some of your opinions on Nami? So far, I've rather enjoyed her and I like her a hell of a lot more then I ever liked Lulu. Her kit isn't that bad, a bit of a mana hog, which seems to be helped with a Chalice. 

on Dec 10, 2012

I kind of think that Nami sucks so far, but maybe people just haven't figured out how to play her yet.

on Dec 10, 2012

Good news - notes appear to be live

 

edit - fyi - HUGE nerf on pbe for black cleaver.  I think they really, really overdid it.  They had a nerf on pbe before... this is the latest.  Worth a quick look.

http://www.newsoflegends.com/index.php/pbe-black-cleaver-nerfs-and-buff-particle-changes-hit-the-pbe-533/

and last.. karl - watch this... interesting interaction on vi's ult.  It kind of super chases anyone.  While ww would ult instantly, this chases after a distance.  With her q (gap closer that goes over walls), could be some potential.  I still think she will be a soft jung tho.

on Dec 11, 2012

A treat for you guys.  I get the voice actors from LoL to say whatever I want them to.  Watch - seriously... I did. I request many insane things for them to say and they say all of them.

http://www.twitch.tv/1pacov1/b/347077788

 

 

on Dec 11, 2012

re: nami - I think she's fun to play and reasonably balanced.  BUT - I don't think adc's know how to work with her all that well just yet.  For instance, her empower ability gives the adc a slow + gives the adc a short move speed buff (passive).  But adc's seem to realize that and don't go all in as a result or go for more damage (my experience anyway).  Then there is her q for 1.5 seconds of cc.  It's usually pretty obvious if that is going to hit, but adc's typically don't go for the free damage.  I really like her ult for its range.  Anyway, I think she's reasonably rounded and a good addition as a support - but she'll be kind of weak until adc's really learn how to play with her and create some synergy. I think her and draven would be sick if nami + draven could get on the same page.  His move speed buff + empower, he could easily knock the adc to the side where nami could place a bubble and draven could just unload.  Lots and lots of potential imo. 

on Dec 12, 2012

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FSauMwWZABs

I
 wanted you all to see this because its the most ridiculousness display of balls I have ever seen. The number 1 clip is just amazing. The zero hesitation and excellent target choices are awe inspiring. 

on Dec 12, 2012

TIL if someone has Aegis and another person has Bulwark, then everyone in range will have both auras. That's a total of 45 MR for the team, which seems really strong.  - thx reddit. 

I'm guessing that might be a bug, but perhaps not.  They really need to issue a hot fix for the cleaver nonsense and likely this.

on Dec 12, 2012

lag wars vent still down... setting up skype...

on Dec 12, 2012

skype = IIpacovII

on Dec 12, 2012

um... so thornmail procs liandry's torment... let that sink in...

 

anyway, of the bs things in lol right now, I really dislike black cleaver enough that I wont stack it if i pick it up.  I think folks that go bruiser mid with 20 bc's are assholes.

Now, I am willing to stack a bulwark + upgraded bulwark... somehow feels less cheap... but I'm sure its still cheap.  45 mr for the team tho...

on Dec 12, 2012

Aegis and Bulwark shouldn't stack since the aura has the same name.  That's a bug.

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