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Well, I started a thread  back in August (https://forums.joeuser.com/411269/) that's seen a lot of activity and actually had quite a few good bits of information for new and old players alike.  I figure it's time to start a new thread and perhaps keep the OP up-to-date with useful information, etc.  Feel free to use this post for any LoL discussion, etc.

Super fast background:  I played a lot of Demigod as pacov/cheesuscrust.  Back in August 2011 or so, I started getting heavily involved in LoL and folks have been kind enough to chime in with tips and links to various sites that have been quite useful to me.  In addition, I've been able to keep up with folks that I've played Demigod with in the past and meet some new folks that play LoL and frequent these message boards. 

Here's some of the things I've learned in the previous thread:

 New Player tips

  • Play the tutorial.
  • Consider picking up the starter bundle.  It's 530 RP (that's about $4).  You get 8 champs unlocked, a 4 win IP boost and a 10 win XP boost.  It's a pretty good deal (used it recently on an alt account).  You can find it in the game store under bundles.
  • Riot gives you 400 RP as soon as you hit level 5.  It's enough to buy some skins, a boost, or a cheap character. 
  • Learn to last hit!  Last hitting is simply landing the last hit on creeps.  If you last hit, you get gold for that kill.  The number of creeps you have killed is tracked in a value called CS.  You can see this number in the top right hand corner of the ui or by pressing tab.  Here's a really simple tutorial re: last hitting if you are brand new - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LheiRB76x5g
  • Read some guides on any character you want to try out.  The recommended builds (what you see when you go to a shop) are not optimal.  The guides include item suggestions and skill orders.  These are very useful in learning decent ways to build characters
  • Use the rune combiner to get level 3 runes prior to level 20 if you like.  You will need 375 IP.  Buy any tier 1 rune that costs 15 IP.  You need to purchase 25 of these.  Click on your rune page.  In the bottom right hand corner there is a button called the Rune Combiner.  If you place 5 runes in there, you can get a random rune that is 1 tier higher (eg if you have 5 tier 1 runes, you will get 1 random tier 2 rune.  Anyway, the math works out such that you spend 375 IP ( buy 25 tier 1 15 IP runes) and you get 1 completely random tier 3 rune.  Some of the quintessences are 2k IP, so if you luck out and get one of those, you just won the lottery.  You can always keep the random tier 2 rune if you end up with something good and don't want to trade it out yet.
  • Consider setting aside IP for tier 3 runes (available at level 20 and above).  You can't purchase them with real money - only IP.  Keep that in mind.

Great site I visit every day for LoL related news - http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends

pacov's misc info

Here's a guide I made

pacov's Guide to Improving at League of Legends and Moving Up in Elo

k - so I'm just going to put down some of my thoughts.  I'm not amazing at this game, but I do certain things that improve my odds of winning in ranked and so far its panning out just fine (bronze 5 to gold 5 in about a month or so).  We all have varied skill levels, so some of this might be useful and some not.  Caveat complete.

Prerequisite- you need to know how to play every single role.  You don't have to be a god at every single role (more power to you if you are - I'm certainly not).  You need to be able to play at a serviceable level in every single role and excel at least at 1 role (preferably 2).  In my case, I'm good at support and adc.  I'm not great, but have serviceable mids and jungles and so so tops.  Knowing what you are good at and bad at is very important.  If you don't know, I can probably tell you - but you really should know...  Anyway, you need to have enough champs to make solid picks in any role and you need to be able to cover any role if it comes down to it.  I'll talk about how to get better at specific roles in a bit.

Champ select advice - Don't be the "fill" guy unless you really feel like you are awesome in all roles.  Call your preferred role immediately when you hit the lobby.  Say "adc pref."  Do this as soon as you hit the lobby.  Some people believe that if you call a role you magically get it.  This is stupid, but if you call something out, folks will often accomodate your request.  If you are feeling wishy washy for whatever reason, call out multiple roles in order of what you want to play - "adc/mid pref."  In my experience, you generally do not want to call support.  It's a very important role, but you want to be in a position to carry every single game if possible.  If you aren't calling out a role, you are hoping that other players can carry you.  If you are hoping that folks will carry you, you don't deserve to win.  You need to know your best roles and you absolutely should request them.

Solo or duo in ranked? - Well, my 1st thought here is that you should solo.  If you solo, you have to rely on yourself.  IMO - its a much bigger test of skill to play solo and win than to duo.  Do you want someone to carry you or do you really want to know that you are actually good?  That said, provided you have the right duo partner, you can increase your odds of winning quite a bit.  The simple math is that instead of having 4 teammates as unknown quantities, you only have 3.  If you have a good duo teammate, you know what you can expect.  When you duo, you get the most bang for your buck by having complimentary roles.  Support/adc is good; jungle/mid also works.  Even if you don't have direct symmetry in roles, if you are an amazing mid and I'm an amazing adc, our odds go up quite a bit if we both get those roles.  Our odds go way down if we can't get those roles and are forced to play out of positions that we are weaker.  For example, Bryff is a good mid.  If he duo's up with me, the only way he will get to play that role is for me to call mid, take it myself, and then put myself into a position like support where I can't carry out of (I'm always 1st pick, Bryff is always last pick when we duo)... that and I have to show the mid I'm picking at the start which means Bryff gets hard countered.  In short, we can expect that we will be a disadvantage when duo queuing.  Now, if Bryff queued up with someone at a lower elo than himself that was solid, he'd likely be 1st pick and be able to get mid and have a better chance of carrying the game.  Anyway, you need to keep in mind where you end up in pick order when duoing if you aren't looking to go adc/support.  If you want that, you can usually get it. 

How do you get better in roles that you are not good at? - Well, here's what I do.  And this is really what I do on a regular basis.  I think about what I'm good at and what I'm not good at.  For instance, I realized that I don't play any hyper carry ads.  So, I read up on hyper carries like vayne and kog maw.  I look for guides on how to build them (most adcs are the same btw ), I look for vids on how people play them (eg how do I all in with a specific champ - is there a combo - when do I all in - what's the best way for me to burst - how should I behave in lane with this champ).  Then, I fire up a custom game and try out the mechanics of whatever champ vs AI.  Usually I learn a few tricks during that custom on how to position myself, etc.  Then, I'm off to normal games where I'll request the role or character I'm trying out.  Now, people still report your for being awful in normals, but it really is where you need to try out characters to see if you are any good or not as the bots are useless for proving your skill level to yourself.  So, fire up that normal and ask to play a role (again - after you've tried out the champ against bots).  If you don't know anyone you are with and you are quite awful, I suggest muting everyone at the start of the game.  Then, do your best.  Continue with this until you feel like you have a serviceable skill level in whatever role.  And keep in mind what you need to work on.  For me, I noticed I didn't really have alot of mids for ranked, so I started practicing some with gragas against and karth.  That way, I'll be able to get the job done if I need to play mid.  The next thing I need to do is put more time into being better top lane. Again, because while I prefer adc/support, I might need to play top for the team.  So, best to be ready for it.  Put your time in and practice roles. 

One last thought - there are certain things you can generally expect in ranked.  1 - if you are 1st pick, you generally can call whatever you want.  Common knowledge, I'm sure - but I'll add - CALL WHATEVER YOU WANT.  2 - if you duo queue, you generally can lock down both adc and support.  It works best if your adc is 1st pick, ofc.  I've bumped into like 10 random dedicated supports in all of my games of LoL.  People generally aren't going to call support. So, if you are 1st pick and duo'd, just call adc and then your duo partner can almost always get support.

 

Lol King profiles for ranked tracking

I'm not going to update this regularly, so just consider it a snapshot (I'll add a date when I update them).  Anyway, I enjoy seeing folks progress through ranked and keeping tabs on that sort of thing from time to time. 

Snapshot updated 05/28/2014

 Character guides

Mid Ziggs by cow - http://www.lolking.net/guides/7906

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on Feb 13, 2013

My old theory was that I'd play support in ranked or fill in where needed, thus giving my teammates the best chance to play the roles they were best at.

After getting busted down to Silver II, I'm throwing that method out the window.  The two games I've played ADC (arguably my worst non jungle role) in ranked I've done really well personally and actually carried the last game I played in where we had a Volibear who was disconnected on and off, what felt like 50% of the time.

tl;dr I'm done supporting.  Buy your own wards for now on.

@Karl

LoL is an E-Sport as well as a game, and like it or not they are trying to give us a taste of that experience when we play ranked.  In any sort of sport there is usually a playoff type setting at the end of the season, which makes those games feel more important and meaningful.  Seems like if they wanted to bring more of a sense of excitement and accomplishment to ranked, they succeeded on both accounts.  I'm kinda digging this whole system and it seems like a lot of other people are too, even if it is flawed and some accuracy has been sacrificed.  

You say that you move more slowly to your correct elo this way, and I see how that is true if you have bad luck on your promotion games.  However, maybe you progress faster to where you should be if something doesn't go wrong when you're trying to go up a level?

tl;dr Did you hear they're wanting to buff WW?  Incoming werewolf bans in our in house games.

@Pacov

I'd say you err on the side of over aggression in lane, if anything.  With the exception of Draven, you tend to play pokey, grinder style champs.  Ez and Cait are strong early game, and when you play them well will successfully ruin other peoples laning experience by zoning them and sending them back to base.  They can get kills of course, but that seems more predicated on people stubbornly trying to stay in lane when you've harassed them down and also forgetting about your long distance ults.  That's my take on it at least. 

tl;pacovdr No listen to asshats.

 

 

on Feb 13, 2013

Pacov - You aren't passive at all.  The game we played you were always pushing the creeps up into cait's face.  If anything, I think you should have changed up the lane a bit, because after a min of that nunu slowed me and maokai came and I permaslowed to death.  That might have been when we were pushing after they backed, but we had a few bad things like that.

on Feb 13, 2013

Thundercles
My old theory was that I'd play support in ranked or fill in where needed, thus giving my teammates the best chance to play the roles they were best at.

After getting busted down to Silver II, I'm throwing that method out the window.

yeah - that's pretty much my conclusion.  If you are actually a solid player, make someone else play support.  You simply do not have as much influence as other roles in carrying.  Supports an incredibly valuable role - unless I ask you to do 1500 dmg in 2 seconds. At best you can keep alive the guy that might do that... and if he's rubbish... well - that's that.  Anyway, I always call a preferred role immediately.  If my queue position allows me to take it, I will. 

There's a program I used for a little while in season 2 that allows you to see your everyone in the queues best characters, etc.  I stopped using it after 2-3 games because I didn't think it was fair.  That said, its just an efficient way of looking up lolking stats.  It's pretty easy to say.. uh - no, you are a terrible adc.  I'll take it based on knowing peoples stats and sharing that info (the prog I used gave you an html link that you could paste that would clearly show who's good at what.  I wish we had info like that available to everyone automatically, because its good info to know. The real reason its not a good program to use is that it allows you to easily ban a players best character. For instance, my best adc is cait.  If you use this program, you could see that and make a targeted ban. 

Thundercles
tl;dr Did you hear they're wanting to buff WW? Incoming werewolf bans in our in house games.

We'll see.  I'd actually prefer dealing with ww over xin/udyr/chog in some instances.  Just a matter of comp.

Pacov - You aren't passive at all. The game we played you were always pushing the creeps up into cait's face. If anything, I think you should have changed up the lane a bit, because after a min of that nunu slowed me and maokai came and I permaslowed to death. That might have been when we were pushing after they backed, but we had a few bad things like that.

see - I don't know. Maybe you are right.  The game you are talking about was an exception.  I change my play style based on a few different things.  1 (sad to say) is karl being negative as fuck.  I still think that silly annie adc would have worked fine.  But karl ran his mouth when things were going good and refused to take shots at baron.... so I started playing like a tard and made a more silly build.  In the game you are talking about, bryff - we saw our top die at < 10 minutes in.  And we clearly saw our jungler was rubbish.  My aggression was more of a mad dive for money before we'd be dealing with 4 bot than anything else.  I'm still amazed we won that game... but it required me to do more silly stuff like farm a smidge when I should be somewhere else (not giving up anything major, ofc, but I should have been with the team PROBABLY).  Anyway, that was a magical game that we both expected to lose.  Happy we won it, but it was silly as fug.  to that crappy jungler diana though.  Smart enough to get us smites on baron.  God awful at knowing how to use diana in the slightest. 

Anyway, I'd honestly appreciate more feedback about my adc.  My real confusion comes from ranked, sadly.  In the past 2 days, I've played like 7 or so games of ranked.  In 2 of those games, I've literally carried my entire team to victory.  As in you lose the game without me.  I don't often do that.  In games like those, I think I'm doing pretty much everything exceptionally well... stats say I am anyway.  Other times, I just do ok, but honestly, in ranked, all of those instances have to do with what's going on in other lanes.  What I'm trying to figure out is what I'm doing right and wrong.  If every game I had stats like 17/1, well.. you'd have to say - holy shit - I'd like to be doing whatever you are doing wrong. 

Anyway, Bryff says I'm being overaggressive.  I'd like to hear more feedback if anyone has observed me playing adc recently.  I personally think I'm evenly measured with a tendency towards over aggression. 

on Feb 14, 2013

wow - so built in replays appear to be live on pbe now that appear in your match history.  Going to check this out today or tomorrow.

the new jayce skin is apparently live now.

can anyone confirm if the 3.02 patch is live? I think so, but don't know so.  Thanks.

 

on Feb 14, 2013

Well, League just patched for me, but I haven't been on in a day or two so I can't say for sure if it is 3.02.

Edit: Top of my screen says 3.02 so I would say it is live.

on Feb 14, 2013

I just tried out the replay mode on PBE - works great.  Just like lolreplay with the added benefit of not randomly crashing lol for me. 

on Feb 14, 2013

quick ranked recap.  Game 1 with bryff - I end up supporting, but it means bryff can carry out of mid.  I go 1/0/12 as nunu.  The skill level in this game was really, really low.  Like the worst lee sin ganks (enemy team) I've ever seen.  So, we win without too much effort.  Game 2 - pacov is a retard.  I go cait, but with a support setup... bad move at start.  Bryff is my support, but gets caught over and over. Has a few nice moves here and there.  We have a jungler that did not know the bot lane existed... or that the top lane existed.  We lose.  Game 3 - hedgie and I duo.  We get a win, but its the dumbest fucking game I've played in a few days at least.  We have an awful mid mord that goes meijia's.  Dies a ton, does silly things.  I'm adc cait and hedgie is jung.  We ended the game having like 4 barons. Enemy team had kat/ash/amumu/panth/taric - eg lots of cc.  This drags the game out to like 60 + min because our mord is just so, so awful.  Eventually we win.  I'm on the verge of a pentakill and the enemy taric tries to give it to me, but my ga gets popped and the timer expires on the penta.  Anyway, very, very happy to end with a win

I'm in silver V.  This is my promotion series to silver IV.  I'm 1/1.  If I win my 1st ranked tomorrow, I move on up.  really, really, really, hoping I can win 1 game and adv quickly without redoing shit much.  Night all!

 edit - quinn is live on pbe

on Feb 15, 2013

well - I just got jumped ahead a division.  I was silver V.  Won my 2/3 games and now I'm in silver 3.  Looks like bryff, pacov, and sharpy are all in silver 3.  No real idea why I got jumped up to silver 3.  Kind of crushed it in a few games I guess, but that's about it.  I'll be on later.  Hopefully we can get an in house going soon. It's been awhile.  Never seem to have quite enough on at the same time. 

on Feb 15, 2013

warmogs nerf incoming.  its 1% of hp from 1.5% on pbe.

on Feb 15, 2013

I doubt anyone bought it for that anyway lol.

on Feb 15, 2013

fav video of the night. quite entertaining.

on Feb 16, 2013

It's because even when you were in bronze 1, your MMR was above mine in silver 3 and so you are getting help bump into where you belong, in diamond,

on Feb 16, 2013

super fast recap - played some more ranked - went 4/2 duoing with sharp.  Not too shabby.  I'm about 2 games away from a promotion series to move up.  We'll see how that goes. 

on Feb 16, 2013

Gemcraft ( Passive ) has been reworked: Now deals bonus magic damage 4% of Taric's Maximum mana as magic damage per hit. Damage doubled against champions.

Shatter ( W ) mana cost decreased to 50 at all ranks from 50/60/70/80/90 mana.

Dazzle ( E ) mana cost reduced to 50 from 75

Shatter ( W ) now grants 10% of Taric's Armor to allies instead of flat 10/15/20/25/30

Shatter ( W ) now also deals damage equal to .3 of Taric's armor. ( Note: Still has an AP ratio guys, calm down . )

Just found this on the league forums. If it goes live this is going to be hilarious.

on Feb 16, 2013

What the fuck is wrong with Riot...

 

That's just disgusting.  Taric will be banned for life with that.

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