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Well, I started a thread  back in August (https://forums.joeuser.com/411269/) that's seen a lot of activity and actually had quite a few good bits of information for new and old players alike.  I figure it's time to start a new thread and perhaps keep the OP up-to-date with useful information, etc.  Feel free to use this post for any LoL discussion, etc.

Super fast background:  I played a lot of Demigod as pacov/cheesuscrust.  Back in August 2011 or so, I started getting heavily involved in LoL and folks have been kind enough to chime in with tips and links to various sites that have been quite useful to me.  In addition, I've been able to keep up with folks that I've played Demigod with in the past and meet some new folks that play LoL and frequent these message boards. 

Here's some of the things I've learned in the previous thread:

 New Player tips

  • Play the tutorial.
  • Consider picking up the starter bundle.  It's 530 RP (that's about $4).  You get 8 champs unlocked, a 4 win IP boost and a 10 win XP boost.  It's a pretty good deal (used it recently on an alt account).  You can find it in the game store under bundles.
  • Riot gives you 400 RP as soon as you hit level 5.  It's enough to buy some skins, a boost, or a cheap character. 
  • Learn to last hit!  Last hitting is simply landing the last hit on creeps.  If you last hit, you get gold for that kill.  The number of creeps you have killed is tracked in a value called CS.  You can see this number in the top right hand corner of the ui or by pressing tab.  Here's a really simple tutorial re: last hitting if you are brand new - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LheiRB76x5g
  • Read some guides on any character you want to try out.  The recommended builds (what you see when you go to a shop) are not optimal.  The guides include item suggestions and skill orders.  These are very useful in learning decent ways to build characters
  • Use the rune combiner to get level 3 runes prior to level 20 if you like.  You will need 375 IP.  Buy any tier 1 rune that costs 15 IP.  You need to purchase 25 of these.  Click on your rune page.  In the bottom right hand corner there is a button called the Rune Combiner.  If you place 5 runes in there, you can get a random rune that is 1 tier higher (eg if you have 5 tier 1 runes, you will get 1 random tier 2 rune.  Anyway, the math works out such that you spend 375 IP ( buy 25 tier 1 15 IP runes) and you get 1 completely random tier 3 rune.  Some of the quintessences are 2k IP, so if you luck out and get one of those, you just won the lottery.  You can always keep the random tier 2 rune if you end up with something good and don't want to trade it out yet.
  • Consider setting aside IP for tier 3 runes (available at level 20 and above).  You can't purchase them with real money - only IP.  Keep that in mind.

Great site I visit every day for LoL related news - http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends

pacov's misc info

Here's a guide I made

pacov's Guide to Improving at League of Legends and Moving Up in Elo

k - so I'm just going to put down some of my thoughts.  I'm not amazing at this game, but I do certain things that improve my odds of winning in ranked and so far its panning out just fine (bronze 5 to gold 5 in about a month or so).  We all have varied skill levels, so some of this might be useful and some not.  Caveat complete.

Prerequisite- you need to know how to play every single role.  You don't have to be a god at every single role (more power to you if you are - I'm certainly not).  You need to be able to play at a serviceable level in every single role and excel at least at 1 role (preferably 2).  In my case, I'm good at support and adc.  I'm not great, but have serviceable mids and jungles and so so tops.  Knowing what you are good at and bad at is very important.  If you don't know, I can probably tell you - but you really should know...  Anyway, you need to have enough champs to make solid picks in any role and you need to be able to cover any role if it comes down to it.  I'll talk about how to get better at specific roles in a bit.

Champ select advice - Don't be the "fill" guy unless you really feel like you are awesome in all roles.  Call your preferred role immediately when you hit the lobby.  Say "adc pref."  Do this as soon as you hit the lobby.  Some people believe that if you call a role you magically get it.  This is stupid, but if you call something out, folks will often accomodate your request.  If you are feeling wishy washy for whatever reason, call out multiple roles in order of what you want to play - "adc/mid pref."  In my experience, you generally do not want to call support.  It's a very important role, but you want to be in a position to carry every single game if possible.  If you aren't calling out a role, you are hoping that other players can carry you.  If you are hoping that folks will carry you, you don't deserve to win.  You need to know your best roles and you absolutely should request them.

Solo or duo in ranked? - Well, my 1st thought here is that you should solo.  If you solo, you have to rely on yourself.  IMO - its a much bigger test of skill to play solo and win than to duo.  Do you want someone to carry you or do you really want to know that you are actually good?  That said, provided you have the right duo partner, you can increase your odds of winning quite a bit.  The simple math is that instead of having 4 teammates as unknown quantities, you only have 3.  If you have a good duo teammate, you know what you can expect.  When you duo, you get the most bang for your buck by having complimentary roles.  Support/adc is good; jungle/mid also works.  Even if you don't have direct symmetry in roles, if you are an amazing mid and I'm an amazing adc, our odds go up quite a bit if we both get those roles.  Our odds go way down if we can't get those roles and are forced to play out of positions that we are weaker.  For example, Bryff is a good mid.  If he duo's up with me, the only way he will get to play that role is for me to call mid, take it myself, and then put myself into a position like support where I can't carry out of (I'm always 1st pick, Bryff is always last pick when we duo)... that and I have to show the mid I'm picking at the start which means Bryff gets hard countered.  In short, we can expect that we will be a disadvantage when duo queuing.  Now, if Bryff queued up with someone at a lower elo than himself that was solid, he'd likely be 1st pick and be able to get mid and have a better chance of carrying the game.  Anyway, you need to keep in mind where you end up in pick order when duoing if you aren't looking to go adc/support.  If you want that, you can usually get it. 

How do you get better in roles that you are not good at? - Well, here's what I do.  And this is really what I do on a regular basis.  I think about what I'm good at and what I'm not good at.  For instance, I realized that I don't play any hyper carry ads.  So, I read up on hyper carries like vayne and kog maw.  I look for guides on how to build them (most adcs are the same btw ), I look for vids on how people play them (eg how do I all in with a specific champ - is there a combo - when do I all in - what's the best way for me to burst - how should I behave in lane with this champ).  Then, I fire up a custom game and try out the mechanics of whatever champ vs AI.  Usually I learn a few tricks during that custom on how to position myself, etc.  Then, I'm off to normal games where I'll request the role or character I'm trying out.  Now, people still report your for being awful in normals, but it really is where you need to try out characters to see if you are any good or not as the bots are useless for proving your skill level to yourself.  So, fire up that normal and ask to play a role (again - after you've tried out the champ against bots).  If you don't know anyone you are with and you are quite awful, I suggest muting everyone at the start of the game.  Then, do your best.  Continue with this until you feel like you have a serviceable skill level in whatever role.  And keep in mind what you need to work on.  For me, I noticed I didn't really have alot of mids for ranked, so I started practicing some with gragas against and karth.  That way, I'll be able to get the job done if I need to play mid.  The next thing I need to do is put more time into being better top lane. Again, because while I prefer adc/support, I might need to play top for the team.  So, best to be ready for it.  Put your time in and practice roles. 

One last thought - there are certain things you can generally expect in ranked.  1 - if you are 1st pick, you generally can call whatever you want.  Common knowledge, I'm sure - but I'll add - CALL WHATEVER YOU WANT.  2 - if you duo queue, you generally can lock down both adc and support.  It works best if your adc is 1st pick, ofc.  I've bumped into like 10 random dedicated supports in all of my games of LoL.  People generally aren't going to call support. So, if you are 1st pick and duo'd, just call adc and then your duo partner can almost always get support.

 

Lol King profiles for ranked tracking

I'm not going to update this regularly, so just consider it a snapshot (I'll add a date when I update them).  Anyway, I enjoy seeing folks progress through ranked and keeping tabs on that sort of thing from time to time. 

Snapshot updated 05/28/2014

 Character guides

Mid Ziggs by cow - http://www.lolking.net/guides/7906

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on May 14, 2013

Playing against Cait is interesting.  If you shut her down in lane, she is a terrible carry since she just doesn't do the damage.  But she is probably the best laner.  I kind of like jungling against her since she likes to push, and if you can put her behind, you win.

Anyway, I won't be playing much until Saturday since I'm away on business.  I might see how the hotel wireless does at some point, but I'm not exactly optimistic.

on May 14, 2013

thunder and I playing ranked atm - i check what u posted in a wee bit

on May 14, 2013

thunder and i were destroyed at ranked

on May 14, 2013

ranked with hunny now - ranked hunger returning... if u want to spectate, thunder is doing a ranked solo now

on May 14, 2013

Krazikarl

Playing against Cait is interesting.  If you shut her down in lane, she is a terrible carry since she just doesn't do the damage.  But she is probably the best laner.  I kind of like jungling against her since she likes to push, and if you can put her behind, you win.

Anyway, I won't be playing much until Saturday since I'm away on business.  I might see how the hotel wireless does at some point, but I'm not exactly optimistic.

fugging tired, but that said - my iphone has enough bandwidth to play lol.  Wifi should hopefully do ya.  Give it a go if you are looking for a game.  You can always do some bs aram if you have the hunger.

Awful night for ranked for me.  I care and don't care.  I'm gold V and can't get dropped, but I started the night 85 lp 1 game from ranked series.  Now I'm like 50lp.  smeh.  If I'm going to play ranked I'm wanting to win ofc.  Felt like i had an ok performance in my games, but not strong enough to carry based on other things going on.  If I see another fucking mid start without a ward and a mao jungler.... sigh.  Anyway.  No games did I feel like I blew it, but same crap result.  As cow gets ready to hit plat, my hunger increases.

All of you that aren't gold... get fucking hungry.  I have no doubts that you folks can hit gold.  Get back to it or I will invite you to an aram. 

on May 15, 2013

new vlog up - will add to the youtube feed/playlist in a bit.  pacov vlog #8 - new stuff on pbe and getting back into ranked play.  http://www.twitch.tv/1pacov1/c/2289106

 

oh - and the 3.7 patch notes are out if you didn't see already:  http://na.leagueoflegends.com/news/patch-37-notes

 

on May 15, 2013

ok - youtube playlist updated w vlog - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R1ZJvTIZpd4&list=PL1dGpOq1NyJkKISmXY32V9Buncb6bNFJn

Started playing bio shock infinite today.  Love it.  Playing more now.  Only managed to get in an aram and a game of SR w bryff.  Might check back in a bit to see if folks are up for game.

on May 15, 2013

well - i streamed an aram, a normal, 2-3 ranked games, and some bioshock infinite.  See the twitch vids from today if interested.  Off to bed - night all!

on May 16, 2013

looks like we were patched overnight all quick like

on May 17, 2013

Had quite a bit of fun last night. Saw karl popped on for a bit (you back in town, yet?), but I didn't get to play any with him. 

So, I tried out the item set maker thingus - works really well and is simple to use.  I set up a few pages and am keeping with the following convention for groups:  consumables (at the very top), starting items, early/mid, mid/late, and defensive.  That setup lets me quickly grab whatever consumable I might want and the defensive tab is also really useful for picking up a late-ish def item.  It's worth the time to set up imo and I suggest folks give it a go if you have not already - really good feature.  I did read that the item sets are stored locally - anyone happen to know where?  I did a little searching and I could not find on my local disk or via google.

I'm going through an interesting (to me anyway) phase as adc lately.  1st - I'm banning the crap out of ezreal.  He's not really a threat, imo, during laning for the most part, but he's just so damn annoying to kill with his blink + flash + blue item build... and as I've been seeing ez in pretty much every freaking game, I'm banning him out as I don't want to play as him.  If they made him a true adc, that would solve the blue item smeh, but I doubt they will go that route.  Anyway, I'm just banning him atm. 

I'm also really getting into playing ashe.  I've always thought she was a so-so adc, but has an amazing initiate for the team which provides a good deal of flexibility in team composition.  An adc that can safely initiate is pretty strong.  Anyway, I've been building her differently than I do other adcs with a good deal of success so far.  I run life steal quints to get 6% out the gates + a dorans blade start.  On first shop, I'm picking up a zeal and rushing pd as appropriate.  Then its boots of swiftness and then being a huge nuisance kiting and poking.  And as I wont be up against hop along ez, its generally pretty easy lock down early kills.  That said, I don't really think the competition last night was all that up to par as we pretty well stomped our SR games. Anyway, after I rush the pd, I either start building ie or get lw.  I don't pickup additional lifesteal, though, and that's a smidge noticable as you play her, but you can solve that by keeping a few red pots on you.  Anyway, I really dig coming back to lane with zeal on 1st shop, though.  Extra crit chance works fine with her passive and the added ms/as is very nice.  Also, its much more practical than berserkers greaves.  that's like what, 950 for 45 MS and 20% AS.  Compare that to zeal - $1,175 (225 more gold than bg) - 18% AS, 10% crit, 5% MS (if you had 350, this puts you to 368 or so vs 395).  Anyway, the main thing is that it gets you closer to PD faster.  And with a character like ash, being able to ignore unit colision to chase/kite goes a long way imo.  Plus you are likely finishing pd a smidge before them.  Anyway, ashe atm.

Anyway, played w/ bryff, soccermom, teamsnoob, vlad, bronayn, and eventually pete (ARAM yo).  In SR, I had vlad going janna as support for me and he was spot on.  Then, I had teamsnoob go syndra as my support, and he was actually pretty damn good.  Pretty well spot on for his stuns.  I, sadly, was not as spot on in my reaction time to those stuns.  I blew 1 really good opportunity for a kill on trist by having too slow a reaction time to arrow and finish her before she could hop away.  Also, its a smidge difficult to react to for positioning (especially w ashe's arrow) as syndra knocks the champ back a smidge when she stuns.  Syndra's still pretty far from an idea support, but the ash/syndra actually worked well enough and provided quite a bit of cc.  Anyway, it was fun.  Looking forward to playing more soon. 

on May 18, 2013

pacov, as ashe you build statikk shiv, not pd, because of her on hit effects first hit crit (will always be chained) and slow

on May 18, 2013

well.. I've been getting some good peterdumptruck time in recently anyway.  I miss the more competitive aspect.  Hoping I can catch 5 of you that want a game on SR soon.  Feel like i keep missing out on chances for more challenging games.  I did a bunch of ARAM tonight for shits and giggles, but I really want to do more rift

That said, I'm debating something I haven't seen before and have been trying it out with reasonable results.  Ashe bot lane with crit damage runes + armor.  I had a ton of IP and decided to waste it on crit damage runes.  Turns out you can get to about 50% bonus crit dmg with runes/masteries.  I'm at about 36% bonus w keeping armor yellows.  Now, its a goofball strat with some champs... BUT ASHE... maybe not as much.  You build her like my AS crit build.  PD, boots of swift, IE.  Right there, you are at 55% crit base.  You have about 220 dmg or something.  Crits for 245% dmg 55% of the time with that.  And you are kiting.  And you have her passive so you start with a crit.  Anyway, w 220 dmg + 245% crit, you are 1 hitting for like 720 or something... and consider that you are ulting, slowing and 1 hitting a target.  It's a lot of dmg.  Anyway, its a nonsense build to some degree, but that extra 41% dmg + 5% extra for targets below x hp.... and you get AS boost from masteries when u are already fast.  Anyway, its very strong.  You lose lane and you are a POS.  You break even or win lane and its very, very strong.  Hoping to try it out in a reasonably matched game on rift sometime soon.  It's really just an extension of what I've already done with my move speed build... it actually doesn't really deviate much from that at all and has more dmg output.  You just lack MR and some early ad.. which her passive covers as long as u can farm fine with lower dmg.  I did notice that I picked up lifesteal consistently after my ie... she needs LS, but rushing pd/ie provides some big adv. 

 

pacov, as ashe you build statikk shiv, not pd, because of her on hit effects first hit crit (will always be chained) and slow

Maybe... not really set in stone on my AS/MS ashe build.  The crit of static procs based on what you hit.  for instance, whatever I targetted will be hit with crit based on my AD.  Anything that is chained only crits on the 100 base dmg from lightning on shiv + my crit dmg %. So, if I had a flat 200% crit dmg with 200 dmg, my target (whoever I hit with aa) would take 600 dmg.  Anyone hit with shiv proc would take 100 dmg + 200% crit or 300 dmg.  BUT - u are right that I could chain folks with my slow using that.  So, on one hand, I could slow and run through creeps.  On the other hand, I could slow at range (eg I attack someone other than champ and chain to them) and then try to chase - BUT, I could still get creep blocked.  It could work either way.  My experience (SO FAR) is that ashe has no problems quickly pushing a lane if needed w/o shiv.  And I more often than not miss a kill because I was creep blocked (people try to stand behind creeps so I can't volley, but I can often AA with my slow to get at them while they are behind a creep wall... only to miss the kill because douchebag creep).  Anyway, bottom line its a novelty setup, but actually makes logical sense to use on ASH.  AND - makes a shit ton of sense with how they are talking about reworking her passive.  If they redo her passive the way they have been talking, well.... believe me, I have the right idea working on her and playing MS/crit setup.  We'll see if they go through with the passive changes, but I'm telling you, she moves to tier 1 ADC if they do. 

on May 18, 2013

I'm just saying that because I know a guy who was pretty high rank since S1 and he says use shiv...I like pd too but it makes sense to me.

on May 18, 2013

getting out of gold is a sick demented joke. 

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