Pacov's place to enjoy the show.

I've locked/archived this thread/blog and have started a new discussion over here:  http://forums.demigodthegame.com/454943/

Please join me if you like.

 

 

 


 

 

Am I streaming


 

 

Well, I started a thread  back in August (https://forums.joeuser.com/411269/) that's seen a lot of activity and actually had quite a few good bits of information for new and old players alike.  I figure it's time to start a new thread and perhaps keep the OP up-to-date with useful information, etc.  Feel free to use this post for any LoL discussion, etc.

Super fast background:  I played a lot of Demigod as pacov/cheesuscrust.  Back in August 2011 or so, I started getting heavily involved in LoL and folks have been kind enough to chime in with tips and links to various sites that have been quite useful to me.  In addition, I've been able to keep up with folks that I've played Demigod with in the past and meet some new folks that play LoL and frequent these message boards. 

Here's some of the things I've learned in the previous thread:

 New Player tips

  • Play the tutorial.
  • Consider picking up the starter bundle.  It's 530 RP (that's about $4).  You get 8 champs unlocked, a 4 win IP boost and a 10 win XP boost.  It's a pretty good deal (used it recently on an alt account).  You can find it in the game store under bundles.
  • Riot gives you 400 RP as soon as you hit level 5.  It's enough to buy some skins, a boost, or a cheap character. 
  • Learn to last hit!  Last hitting is simply landing the last hit on creeps.  If you last hit, you get gold for that kill.  The number of creeps you have killed is tracked in a value called CS.  You can see this number in the top right hand corner of the ui or by pressing tab.  Here's a really simple tutorial re: last hitting if you are brand new - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LheiRB76x5g
  • Read some guides on any character you want to try out.  The recommended builds (what you see when you go to a shop) are not optimal.  The guides include item suggestions and skill orders.  These are very useful in learning decent ways to build characters
  • Use the rune combiner to get level 3 runes prior to level 20 if you like.  You will need 375 IP.  Buy any tier 1 rune that costs 15 IP.  You need to purchase 25 of these.  Click on your rune page.  In the bottom right hand corner there is a button called the Rune Combiner.  If you place 5 runes in there, you can get a random rune that is 1 tier higher (eg if you have 5 tier 1 runes, you will get 1 random tier 2 rune.  Anyway, the math works out such that you spend 375 IP ( buy 25 tier 1 15 IP runes) and you get 1 completely random tier 3 rune.  Some of the quintessences are 2k IP, so if you luck out and get one of those, you just won the lottery.  You can always keep the random tier 2 rune if you end up with something good and don't want to trade it out yet.
  • Consider setting aside IP for tier 3 runes (available at level 20 and above).  You can't purchase them with real money - only IP.  Keep that in mind.

Great site I visit every day for LoL related news - http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends

pacov's misc info

Here's a guide I made

pacov's Guide to Improving at League of Legends and Moving Up in Elo

k - so I'm just going to put down some of my thoughts.  I'm not amazing at this game, but I do certain things that improve my odds of winning in ranked and so far its panning out just fine (bronze 5 to gold 5 in about a month or so).  We all have varied skill levels, so some of this might be useful and some not.  Caveat complete.

Prerequisite- you need to know how to play every single role.  You don't have to be a god at every single role (more power to you if you are - I'm certainly not).  You need to be able to play at a serviceable level in every single role and excel at least at 1 role (preferably 2).  In my case, I'm good at support and adc.  I'm not great, but have serviceable mids and jungles and so so tops.  Knowing what you are good at and bad at is very important.  If you don't know, I can probably tell you - but you really should know...  Anyway, you need to have enough champs to make solid picks in any role and you need to be able to cover any role if it comes down to it.  I'll talk about how to get better at specific roles in a bit.

Champ select advice - Don't be the "fill" guy unless you really feel like you are awesome in all roles.  Call your preferred role immediately when you hit the lobby.  Say "adc pref."  Do this as soon as you hit the lobby.  Some people believe that if you call a role you magically get it.  This is stupid, but if you call something out, folks will often accomodate your request.  If you are feeling wishy washy for whatever reason, call out multiple roles in order of what you want to play - "adc/mid pref."  In my experience, you generally do not want to call support.  It's a very important role, but you want to be in a position to carry every single game if possible.  If you aren't calling out a role, you are hoping that other players can carry you.  If you are hoping that folks will carry you, you don't deserve to win.  You need to know your best roles and you absolutely should request them.

Solo or duo in ranked? - Well, my 1st thought here is that you should solo.  If you solo, you have to rely on yourself.  IMO - its a much bigger test of skill to play solo and win than to duo.  Do you want someone to carry you or do you really want to know that you are actually good?  That said, provided you have the right duo partner, you can increase your odds of winning quite a bit.  The simple math is that instead of having 4 teammates as unknown quantities, you only have 3.  If you have a good duo teammate, you know what you can expect.  When you duo, you get the most bang for your buck by having complimentary roles.  Support/adc is good; jungle/mid also works.  Even if you don't have direct symmetry in roles, if you are an amazing mid and I'm an amazing adc, our odds go up quite a bit if we both get those roles.  Our odds go way down if we can't get those roles and are forced to play out of positions that we are weaker.  For example, Bryff is a good mid.  If he duo's up with me, the only way he will get to play that role is for me to call mid, take it myself, and then put myself into a position like support where I can't carry out of (I'm always 1st pick, Bryff is always last pick when we duo)... that and I have to show the mid I'm picking at the start which means Bryff gets hard countered.  In short, we can expect that we will be a disadvantage when duo queuing.  Now, if Bryff queued up with someone at a lower elo than himself that was solid, he'd likely be 1st pick and be able to get mid and have a better chance of carrying the game.  Anyway, you need to keep in mind where you end up in pick order when duoing if you aren't looking to go adc/support.  If you want that, you can usually get it. 

How do you get better in roles that you are not good at? - Well, here's what I do.  And this is really what I do on a regular basis.  I think about what I'm good at and what I'm not good at.  For instance, I realized that I don't play any hyper carry ads.  So, I read up on hyper carries like vayne and kog maw.  I look for guides on how to build them (most adcs are the same btw ), I look for vids on how people play them (eg how do I all in with a specific champ - is there a combo - when do I all in - what's the best way for me to burst - how should I behave in lane with this champ).  Then, I fire up a custom game and try out the mechanics of whatever champ vs AI.  Usually I learn a few tricks during that custom on how to position myself, etc.  Then, I'm off to normal games where I'll request the role or character I'm trying out.  Now, people still report your for being awful in normals, but it really is where you need to try out characters to see if you are any good or not as the bots are useless for proving your skill level to yourself.  So, fire up that normal and ask to play a role (again - after you've tried out the champ against bots).  If you don't know anyone you are with and you are quite awful, I suggest muting everyone at the start of the game.  Then, do your best.  Continue with this until you feel like you have a serviceable skill level in whatever role.  And keep in mind what you need to work on.  For me, I noticed I didn't really have alot of mids for ranked, so I started practicing some with gragas against and karth.  That way, I'll be able to get the job done if I need to play mid.  The next thing I need to do is put more time into being better top lane. Again, because while I prefer adc/support, I might need to play top for the team.  So, best to be ready for it.  Put your time in and practice roles. 

One last thought - there are certain things you can generally expect in ranked.  1 - if you are 1st pick, you generally can call whatever you want.  Common knowledge, I'm sure - but I'll add - CALL WHATEVER YOU WANT.  2 - if you duo queue, you generally can lock down both adc and support.  It works best if your adc is 1st pick, ofc.  I've bumped into like 10 random dedicated supports in all of my games of LoL.  People generally aren't going to call support. So, if you are 1st pick and duo'd, just call adc and then your duo partner can almost always get support.

 

Lol King profiles for ranked tracking

I'm not going to update this regularly, so just consider it a snapshot (I'll add a date when I update them).  Anyway, I enjoy seeing folks progress through ranked and keeping tabs on that sort of thing from time to time. 

Snapshot updated 05/28/2014

 Character guides

Mid Ziggs by cow - http://www.lolking.net/guides/7906

Comments (Page 49)
334 PagesFirst 47 48 49 50 51  Last
on Apr 26, 2012

l o l o l 2 infinity edges.  soo 114% crit strike total.. and a wasted passive.  sounds like lvl 5

on Apr 26, 2012

l o l o l 2 infinity edges.  soo 114% crit strike total.. and a wasted passive.  sounds like lvl 5

oh, he was quite awful - but still, PENTA KILL!!! PENTA KILL!!! PENTA KILL!!! 

They completely need that korean announcer's voice in the game for penta kills.  How awesome would that be?

on Apr 26, 2012

Smart Yi's are so rare...

on Apr 26, 2012

Got Xerath today....omg people are slow for not playing him, he's knocked fiddles out of second place....

 

CASS AND XERATH FTW

on Apr 26, 2012

Jungle/roaming twitch has traction on the UE servers in the 2600 elo... clown shoes

on Apr 26, 2012

OMG_blackmage
Got Xerath today....omg people are slow for not playing him, he's knocked fiddles out of second place....

 

CASS AND XERATH FTW

 

Lighting Bolt!

 

Lighting Bolt!!

 

Lighting Bolt!!!


on Apr 26, 2012

PENTA KILL PENTA KILL PENTA KILL!!!!

on Apr 26, 2012

Ya there have been times when I'll ban twitch because i've gotten a few in the last couple games.  He can be dealt with, which is why he isn't usually played in competitive play (as he falls off late game unless well fed).  It's very similar to shaco.  People ban him because they don't want to deal with him, not because he can't be dealt with.  

 

Just played against one in a very similar position to the video.  Was teemo top vs jungle twitch / riven.  Instead of normal starting items, I started boots + vision ward and warded my tribrush.  His gank was stymied and I was back to destroying lane in no time.  Granted, he could have just run through lane or river, but hey.. most people don't expect the lvl 1 vision ward in tribrush, and it's the quickest path.  When I run support against a twitch, I just buy vision wards and no sight wards.  Yes, it's more expensive, but if you can shut him down aand place them in convenient locations where your enemies are warding, then it pays off above and beyond.

 

Jungle is by far the best place for twitch in current meta because it allows him to roam freely.  I've seen him as top on more than one occasion.  One game stuck out in particular as I was mid.  He lvl 1 ganked me for first blood.  However, he wasted quite a bit of time, and our riven was in top just farming away.  He tries it again, but now I'm sufficiently prepared for roaming twitch, and he's no longer successful.  In fact, he's detrimental to his team.  Riven is continuing to farm, and has well over double the cs of twitch.  In the end, riven farm won out when twitch could no longer pick up kills to keep up.  The same story for twitch bot... if he stays in lane, he can be controlled with a vision ward in lane brush.  If he roams and isn't successful, he falls very, very far behind.  However, the time that he becomes successful is when people do not alter their playing habits to deal with him, or they alter them incorrectly.  For example, as graves / taric on blue side, I vision warded dragon and lane brush.  Now, my graves decides he wants to push to tower to keep twitch from roaming.  However, in doing this he is letting twitch get free farm at the tower, and completely ruins the power of graves / taric.  If twitch roamed, he would have had to go all the way around blue buff to even get to mid unseen, all the while both him and his support will be missing out on creeps AND experience.  Instead, he kills the tower, making twitch now feel comfortable completely roaming since he has more time to wait for creeps to reach next tower.  

 

 

on Apr 26, 2012

Just gave it a go.  Had instanta ganks for kills in EVERY lane at the start.  And was able to bypass wards all game.  Middle lane kept blowing their money on pink wards after dying twice.  Did not end well for him as a result of the deaths + loss of money on pinks. 

My team was kinda bad, though.  After I'm in for 2 oracles (smeh - was my fault anyway), I had to prod the team to get wards.  Eg - no one used any.  It was a normal... but no wards = awful.  Anyway, ended 11/5/9.  2 of those deaths was just me being a tardo.  Had several easy ganks and a few "I'm a boss" ganks just barely finishing folks with my ult's range.  I'd played the EU build with life steal quints.  I don't completely buy that they are required.  They are amazing if you are kinda low and have a creep wave you can ult on... that puts you back to full hp and you can jungle or gank again.  They do provide some sustain (+ 6% from 2 dorian blades + 3% from the masteries+ 6% from quints (15% early), but I don't think it makes a huge difference. 

All that really matters is having a solid start due to teammates handling the initial jungle dmg + leash.  Frankly, you don't gank at level 2, I don't see this build as incredibly successful.  But if you do (AND - even if you don't get an early kill), you can almost ensure at least 1-2 flashes blown - and you'll be back in enough time to collect on those down flashes.

Anyway, I  twitch.  I hate not being able to use the boots of mobility (build needs the added attack speed).  That was my favorite part of my troll twitch - eg scouting and picking off folks if they do something stupid.  Those boots are just rubbish end game... suppose I could get them and then sell, but I want my ganks to add as much damage/hits as possible so I can use my E at full power. 

on Apr 26, 2012

ust played against one in a very similar position to the video. Was teemo top vs jungle twitch / riven. Instead of normal starting items, I started boots + vision ward and warded my tribrush. His gank was stymied and I was back to destroying lane in no time. Granted, he could have just run through lane or river, but hey.. most people don't expect the lvl 1 vision ward in tribrush, and it's the quickest path. When I run support against a twitch, I just buy vision wards and no sight wards. Yes, it's more expensive, but if you can shut him down aand place them in convenient locations where your enemies are warding, then it pays off above and beyond.

Yeah - I think the true ideal, magic place for twitch would be as a full roamer forcing a 1/1/1 setup in the lanes.  Folks still won't/can't do that in pugs, so oh well.  That said, I agree that jungle is prob the best spot.  I really think the problem is early aggression of folks.  If we are assuming that twitch will fall off, then he NEEDS to be a boss early to be used.  He is NOT, AT ALL, a character that you should go if you aren't trying for a level 2 gank.  You increase your odds of getting destroyed if you are not aggressive (as they have levels over you). 

Anyway, just 1 game so far.  I did well, but made some stupid mistakes.  That said, I will NEVER, ever, play in a draft/ranked against a Lee Sin.  OMG - the duration on him seeing invisible buggers really should be nerfed.  Late game, its like 3-4 seconds or more.  Eg you cannot get away from him as he can cast in again really quickly.  Anyway, lee is easily the biggest FU counter to twitch.  Hopefully twitch makes a come back as a jungle so lee's vision will get a nerf.  Its obviously way out of whack.

So happy to see other folks liking the potential in the rat. 

on Apr 28, 2012

Wb forums

on Apr 28, 2012

-Ue_Carbon

Quoting OMG_blackmage, reply 724Got Xerath today....omg people are slow for not playing him, he's knocked fiddles out of second place....

 

CASS AND XERATH FTW

 

Lighting Bolt!

 

Lighting Bolt!!

 

Lighting Bolt!!!




The real reason why people don't like playing Xerath is because he requires no real skill to play.

There's only ONE way to play him, rather like Yorick...

whereas there are plenty of other AP Mid champs who can be played in a myriad of ways...

 

on Apr 28, 2012

So, I'm running like a 90% win rate with jungle twitch now.  I twitch. 

Other things - spectator mode looks really cool.  I'm hoping this Tuesday is patch day.  Certainly seems like it will be with all the info they are putting out.  The 3rd update to the PBE was really small (eg only a few minor changes), so it looks like the build is pretty damn close to finalized. 

And we all get a 10 game IP boost to apologize for the recent issues with the last patch.  Not necessary imo, but hey - free IP sounds great... especially after i just dumped like 6k IP on lifesteal quints... ouch. 

on Apr 29, 2012

Been uploading a few to lol replays lately.  Just finished a solo top olaf with 11/0/7and playing as a crazy sob.  Got out 2 times with like 15 hp.    I feel like my solo top is getting much better now.  Played 1 ranked as support janna and lost.  Had a completely retarded vayne with me.  It wasn't so much of the laning phase, but her judgment was just completely idiotic.  We'd get a kill, then she'd do something foolish to die.  Happened like 3 times and then the fugger just went off to farm and refused to join in team battles.  Then decided to backdoor when they were about to tear down our citadel.  Anyway, I'd wager the person thinks they are good too... bummer. 

All other games (outside of the damn ranked) were just fine.  Tore it up in 2 games as solo top olaf.  Even bought the brolaf skin.  Easily my fav skin in the game.  Nothing in lol makes me smile more than casting my e and hearing brolaf yell  - BOOM!.  That and being able to say "you say I'm op.  I say your mom is op" over and over. 

on Apr 29, 2012

I'm not completely sure, but I believe Riot Janook is the same Janook from Demigod.  He's streaming live now:

http://www.twitch.tv/janook

 

334 PagesFirst 47 48 49 50 51  Last