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Well, I started a thread  back in August (https://forums.joeuser.com/411269/) that's seen a lot of activity and actually had quite a few good bits of information for new and old players alike.  I figure it's time to start a new thread and perhaps keep the OP up-to-date with useful information, etc.  Feel free to use this post for any LoL discussion, etc.

Super fast background:  I played a lot of Demigod as pacov/cheesuscrust.  Back in August 2011 or so, I started getting heavily involved in LoL and folks have been kind enough to chime in with tips and links to various sites that have been quite useful to me.  In addition, I've been able to keep up with folks that I've played Demigod with in the past and meet some new folks that play LoL and frequent these message boards. 

Here's some of the things I've learned in the previous thread:

 New Player tips

  • Play the tutorial.
  • Consider picking up the starter bundle.  It's 530 RP (that's about $4).  You get 8 champs unlocked, a 4 win IP boost and a 10 win XP boost.  It's a pretty good deal (used it recently on an alt account).  You can find it in the game store under bundles.
  • Riot gives you 400 RP as soon as you hit level 5.  It's enough to buy some skins, a boost, or a cheap character. 
  • Learn to last hit!  Last hitting is simply landing the last hit on creeps.  If you last hit, you get gold for that kill.  The number of creeps you have killed is tracked in a value called CS.  You can see this number in the top right hand corner of the ui or by pressing tab.  Here's a really simple tutorial re: last hitting if you are brand new - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LheiRB76x5g
  • Read some guides on any character you want to try out.  The recommended builds (what you see when you go to a shop) are not optimal.  The guides include item suggestions and skill orders.  These are very useful in learning decent ways to build characters
  • Use the rune combiner to get level 3 runes prior to level 20 if you like.  You will need 375 IP.  Buy any tier 1 rune that costs 15 IP.  You need to purchase 25 of these.  Click on your rune page.  In the bottom right hand corner there is a button called the Rune Combiner.  If you place 5 runes in there, you can get a random rune that is 1 tier higher (eg if you have 5 tier 1 runes, you will get 1 random tier 2 rune.  Anyway, the math works out such that you spend 375 IP ( buy 25 tier 1 15 IP runes) and you get 1 completely random tier 3 rune.  Some of the quintessences are 2k IP, so if you luck out and get one of those, you just won the lottery.  You can always keep the random tier 2 rune if you end up with something good and don't want to trade it out yet.
  • Consider setting aside IP for tier 3 runes (available at level 20 and above).  You can't purchase them with real money - only IP.  Keep that in mind.

Great site I visit every day for LoL related news - http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends

pacov's misc info

Here's a guide I made

pacov's Guide to Improving at League of Legends and Moving Up in Elo

k - so I'm just going to put down some of my thoughts.  I'm not amazing at this game, but I do certain things that improve my odds of winning in ranked and so far its panning out just fine (bronze 5 to gold 5 in about a month or so).  We all have varied skill levels, so some of this might be useful and some not.  Caveat complete.

Prerequisite- you need to know how to play every single role.  You don't have to be a god at every single role (more power to you if you are - I'm certainly not).  You need to be able to play at a serviceable level in every single role and excel at least at 1 role (preferably 2).  In my case, I'm good at support and adc.  I'm not great, but have serviceable mids and jungles and so so tops.  Knowing what you are good at and bad at is very important.  If you don't know, I can probably tell you - but you really should know...  Anyway, you need to have enough champs to make solid picks in any role and you need to be able to cover any role if it comes down to it.  I'll talk about how to get better at specific roles in a bit.

Champ select advice - Don't be the "fill" guy unless you really feel like you are awesome in all roles.  Call your preferred role immediately when you hit the lobby.  Say "adc pref."  Do this as soon as you hit the lobby.  Some people believe that if you call a role you magically get it.  This is stupid, but if you call something out, folks will often accomodate your request.  If you are feeling wishy washy for whatever reason, call out multiple roles in order of what you want to play - "adc/mid pref."  In my experience, you generally do not want to call support.  It's a very important role, but you want to be in a position to carry every single game if possible.  If you aren't calling out a role, you are hoping that other players can carry you.  If you are hoping that folks will carry you, you don't deserve to win.  You need to know your best roles and you absolutely should request them.

Solo or duo in ranked? - Well, my 1st thought here is that you should solo.  If you solo, you have to rely on yourself.  IMO - its a much bigger test of skill to play solo and win than to duo.  Do you want someone to carry you or do you really want to know that you are actually good?  That said, provided you have the right duo partner, you can increase your odds of winning quite a bit.  The simple math is that instead of having 4 teammates as unknown quantities, you only have 3.  If you have a good duo teammate, you know what you can expect.  When you duo, you get the most bang for your buck by having complimentary roles.  Support/adc is good; jungle/mid also works.  Even if you don't have direct symmetry in roles, if you are an amazing mid and I'm an amazing adc, our odds go up quite a bit if we both get those roles.  Our odds go way down if we can't get those roles and are forced to play out of positions that we are weaker.  For example, Bryff is a good mid.  If he duo's up with me, the only way he will get to play that role is for me to call mid, take it myself, and then put myself into a position like support where I can't carry out of (I'm always 1st pick, Bryff is always last pick when we duo)... that and I have to show the mid I'm picking at the start which means Bryff gets hard countered.  In short, we can expect that we will be a disadvantage when duo queuing.  Now, if Bryff queued up with someone at a lower elo than himself that was solid, he'd likely be 1st pick and be able to get mid and have a better chance of carrying the game.  Anyway, you need to keep in mind where you end up in pick order when duoing if you aren't looking to go adc/support.  If you want that, you can usually get it. 

How do you get better in roles that you are not good at? - Well, here's what I do.  And this is really what I do on a regular basis.  I think about what I'm good at and what I'm not good at.  For instance, I realized that I don't play any hyper carry ads.  So, I read up on hyper carries like vayne and kog maw.  I look for guides on how to build them (most adcs are the same btw ), I look for vids on how people play them (eg how do I all in with a specific champ - is there a combo - when do I all in - what's the best way for me to burst - how should I behave in lane with this champ).  Then, I fire up a custom game and try out the mechanics of whatever champ vs AI.  Usually I learn a few tricks during that custom on how to position myself, etc.  Then, I'm off to normal games where I'll request the role or character I'm trying out.  Now, people still report your for being awful in normals, but it really is where you need to try out characters to see if you are any good or not as the bots are useless for proving your skill level to yourself.  So, fire up that normal and ask to play a role (again - after you've tried out the champ against bots).  If you don't know anyone you are with and you are quite awful, I suggest muting everyone at the start of the game.  Then, do your best.  Continue with this until you feel like you have a serviceable skill level in whatever role.  And keep in mind what you need to work on.  For me, I noticed I didn't really have alot of mids for ranked, so I started practicing some with gragas against and karth.  That way, I'll be able to get the job done if I need to play mid.  The next thing I need to do is put more time into being better top lane. Again, because while I prefer adc/support, I might need to play top for the team.  So, best to be ready for it.  Put your time in and practice roles. 

One last thought - there are certain things you can generally expect in ranked.  1 - if you are 1st pick, you generally can call whatever you want.  Common knowledge, I'm sure - but I'll add - CALL WHATEVER YOU WANT.  2 - if you duo queue, you generally can lock down both adc and support.  It works best if your adc is 1st pick, ofc.  I've bumped into like 10 random dedicated supports in all of my games of LoL.  People generally aren't going to call support. So, if you are 1st pick and duo'd, just call adc and then your duo partner can almost always get support.

 

Lol King profiles for ranked tracking

I'm not going to update this regularly, so just consider it a snapshot (I'll add a date when I update them).  Anyway, I enjoy seeing folks progress through ranked and keeping tabs on that sort of thing from time to time. 

Snapshot updated 05/28/2014

 Character guides

Mid Ziggs by cow - http://www.lolking.net/guides/7906

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on Jan 31, 2013

Yeah, she spends plenty of nights away with her BF so that shouldn't be an issue.  I'll definitely be able to do that for testing purposes, but I even switched routers yesterday and couldn't get things to work any better.

Thanks for all the suggestions and input.

on Jan 31, 2013

Thundercles
Thanks for all the suggestions and input.

gl bro!

on Jan 31, 2013

LoL will be down for an estimated 6 hours in about 40 minutes. (http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?p=34098624#post34098624)

 

Add me on Steam, and I'll play other games with people later today. If not, I'll just be my usual lonely self

[CPPFZ]KrdaxDrkrun

 

Also, I resolved the mouse issue for the time being, still trying to get used to my lovely new wrist-hurting mouse...

I've gotten so used to trackballs that my wrist is in agony...

raaaaaaaaaaaaah

on Jan 31, 2013

CPPFZKrdaxDrkrun
LoL will be down for an estimated 6 hours in about 40 minutes.

jebus

on Jan 31, 2013

happy page 100

on Jan 31, 2013

dax... I think you have some pretty big problems with telling time.

"At 02:00 PST, the servers will be shut down and all games currently in progress will end in a draw and stats will not be recorded. We estimate the Fields of Justice will be unavailable for 6 hours."  I don't think that's 2pm.  That's 2AM. 

on Jan 31, 2013

also - thunder - see this.  Post is from today:

http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=3064661

 

on Jan 31, 2013

hahahaha

I do have wonderful issues...

on Jan 31, 2013

Master Yi

  • Meditate
    • Total heal amount increased to 200/350/500/650/800 from 140/280/420/560/700
    • Total ability power ratio reduced to 2.0 from 4.0
    • Mana cost reduced to 50/65/80/95/110 from 70/80/90/100/110

Muahahaha finally!

on Jan 31, 2013

http://www.twitch.tv/1pacov1

team in house games live now

on Jan 31, 2013

Should probably take roles people play into account from now on. Sticking me in the jungle all willy nilly is a sure fire way to have a bad time.

on Jan 31, 2013

also - thunder - see this.  Post is from today:

 

Yeah I checked out that link and it looked slightly promising, though it almost sounded like a more recent short term issue that they were having.  I checked back to see if there were any updates, but the post had completely disappeared. 

I'm thinking that if any Rioter openly admits that their servers had anything to do with lag, then they are consequently lined up against a wall and shot while all evidence of the incident is erased.

on Feb 01, 2013

hopefully not much need to go on about this, but dax ran his mouth a little in a game where we were obviously winning pretty hard.  I addressed him talking in all chat immediately to end that and apologized to the other team and to cow personally.  I think it goes without saying going forward - but if we kill like 3 people when we are already up like 8 kills or w/e, "hahahah" in all chat is not good.  Dax apologized and didn't mean anything by it... and realizes it was inappropriate.  Anyway, best I can do is to address stuff like that immediately.  Hopefully no hard feelings.  Thanks for all the games tonight.

Karl had like a super pro game jungling in 1 of them.  I was really impressed.  Without him, I think xel and I would have steamrolled bot based on how we were doing.  With him, we were shut down pretty hard.  Very well done. 

on Feb 01, 2013

I probably should have played WW in that last game.  I think that FU WW ganks are about the only way I was going to be able to do much when wallstop pairs with somebody who has been playing professionally in the last month.  They just dominated me every time I tried to gank, and karth ults didn't help.  Our bot lane did about as well as could be expected, but there wasn't much I could add, so it didn't go too well.

on Feb 01, 2013

OMG_Shiro
Should probably take roles people play into account from now on. Sticking me in the jungle all willy nilly is a sure fire way to have a bad time.

poor pacov considered you a "jack" (huehuehue - eat my terrible pun) of all trades.  So, yeah - I thought you were the best option on the team and didn't realize that I was setting you up.  Completely agree re: trying to make sure we have 1 decent jungler per team.  Much more fun for everyone.  Hopefully I can remember going forward...

random side note - I saw a montage yesterday of ADC thresh.  I also noticed that there were absolutely 0 instances of a team fight in that montage... going back to my ad thresh is a POS in teamfights late game thought.  pacov still considers adc thresh a terrible, terrible idea.  Certainly fun early/mid, though.  Only "OK" if all of your lanes steamroll. 

So, the new ranked system should be live today.  I'm probably going to dive right in.  I'm curious what we will see when we look at people who join our games, etc, now.  Or if elo will still be viewable in things like lol king.  No idea. 

Hopefully the nerfs will be a step in the right direction.  I honestly think they didn't do any major damage to AP yi with the meditate nerf.  All they did was reduce some of his mid/late game cheese and actually buffed his already near godlike early game laning giving him even more health regen via meditate. 

I didn't catch how much they nerfed giants belt.  I feel like they should increase its cost and reduce the health gained from it.  I think they just reduced the health, but don't remember. 

Anyway, thanks again for all the games last night.  Very fun.

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