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Well, I started a thread  back in August (https://forums.joeuser.com/411269/) that's seen a lot of activity and actually had quite a few good bits of information for new and old players alike.  I figure it's time to start a new thread and perhaps keep the OP up-to-date with useful information, etc.  Feel free to use this post for any LoL discussion, etc.

Super fast background:  I played a lot of Demigod as pacov/cheesuscrust.  Back in August 2011 or so, I started getting heavily involved in LoL and folks have been kind enough to chime in with tips and links to various sites that have been quite useful to me.  In addition, I've been able to keep up with folks that I've played Demigod with in the past and meet some new folks that play LoL and frequent these message boards. 

Here's some of the things I've learned in the previous thread:

 New Player tips

  • Play the tutorial.
  • Consider picking up the starter bundle.  It's 530 RP (that's about $4).  You get 8 champs unlocked, a 4 win IP boost and a 10 win XP boost.  It's a pretty good deal (used it recently on an alt account).  You can find it in the game store under bundles.
  • Riot gives you 400 RP as soon as you hit level 5.  It's enough to buy some skins, a boost, or a cheap character. 
  • Learn to last hit!  Last hitting is simply landing the last hit on creeps.  If you last hit, you get gold for that kill.  The number of creeps you have killed is tracked in a value called CS.  You can see this number in the top right hand corner of the ui or by pressing tab.  Here's a really simple tutorial re: last hitting if you are brand new - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LheiRB76x5g
  • Read some guides on any character you want to try out.  The recommended builds (what you see when you go to a shop) are not optimal.  The guides include item suggestions and skill orders.  These are very useful in learning decent ways to build characters
  • Use the rune combiner to get level 3 runes prior to level 20 if you like.  You will need 375 IP.  Buy any tier 1 rune that costs 15 IP.  You need to purchase 25 of these.  Click on your rune page.  In the bottom right hand corner there is a button called the Rune Combiner.  If you place 5 runes in there, you can get a random rune that is 1 tier higher (eg if you have 5 tier 1 runes, you will get 1 random tier 2 rune.  Anyway, the math works out such that you spend 375 IP ( buy 25 tier 1 15 IP runes) and you get 1 completely random tier 3 rune.  Some of the quintessences are 2k IP, so if you luck out and get one of those, you just won the lottery.  You can always keep the random tier 2 rune if you end up with something good and don't want to trade it out yet.
  • Consider setting aside IP for tier 3 runes (available at level 20 and above).  You can't purchase them with real money - only IP.  Keep that in mind.

Great site I visit every day for LoL related news - http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends

pacov's misc info

Here's a guide I made

pacov's Guide to Improving at League of Legends and Moving Up in Elo

k - so I'm just going to put down some of my thoughts.  I'm not amazing at this game, but I do certain things that improve my odds of winning in ranked and so far its panning out just fine (bronze 5 to gold 5 in about a month or so).  We all have varied skill levels, so some of this might be useful and some not.  Caveat complete.

Prerequisite- you need to know how to play every single role.  You don't have to be a god at every single role (more power to you if you are - I'm certainly not).  You need to be able to play at a serviceable level in every single role and excel at least at 1 role (preferably 2).  In my case, I'm good at support and adc.  I'm not great, but have serviceable mids and jungles and so so tops.  Knowing what you are good at and bad at is very important.  If you don't know, I can probably tell you - but you really should know...  Anyway, you need to have enough champs to make solid picks in any role and you need to be able to cover any role if it comes down to it.  I'll talk about how to get better at specific roles in a bit.

Champ select advice - Don't be the "fill" guy unless you really feel like you are awesome in all roles.  Call your preferred role immediately when you hit the lobby.  Say "adc pref."  Do this as soon as you hit the lobby.  Some people believe that if you call a role you magically get it.  This is stupid, but if you call something out, folks will often accomodate your request.  If you are feeling wishy washy for whatever reason, call out multiple roles in order of what you want to play - "adc/mid pref."  In my experience, you generally do not want to call support.  It's a very important role, but you want to be in a position to carry every single game if possible.  If you aren't calling out a role, you are hoping that other players can carry you.  If you are hoping that folks will carry you, you don't deserve to win.  You need to know your best roles and you absolutely should request them.

Solo or duo in ranked? - Well, my 1st thought here is that you should solo.  If you solo, you have to rely on yourself.  IMO - its a much bigger test of skill to play solo and win than to duo.  Do you want someone to carry you or do you really want to know that you are actually good?  That said, provided you have the right duo partner, you can increase your odds of winning quite a bit.  The simple math is that instead of having 4 teammates as unknown quantities, you only have 3.  If you have a good duo teammate, you know what you can expect.  When you duo, you get the most bang for your buck by having complimentary roles.  Support/adc is good; jungle/mid also works.  Even if you don't have direct symmetry in roles, if you are an amazing mid and I'm an amazing adc, our odds go up quite a bit if we both get those roles.  Our odds go way down if we can't get those roles and are forced to play out of positions that we are weaker.  For example, Bryff is a good mid.  If he duo's up with me, the only way he will get to play that role is for me to call mid, take it myself, and then put myself into a position like support where I can't carry out of (I'm always 1st pick, Bryff is always last pick when we duo)... that and I have to show the mid I'm picking at the start which means Bryff gets hard countered.  In short, we can expect that we will be a disadvantage when duo queuing.  Now, if Bryff queued up with someone at a lower elo than himself that was solid, he'd likely be 1st pick and be able to get mid and have a better chance of carrying the game.  Anyway, you need to keep in mind where you end up in pick order when duoing if you aren't looking to go adc/support.  If you want that, you can usually get it. 

How do you get better in roles that you are not good at? - Well, here's what I do.  And this is really what I do on a regular basis.  I think about what I'm good at and what I'm not good at.  For instance, I realized that I don't play any hyper carry ads.  So, I read up on hyper carries like vayne and kog maw.  I look for guides on how to build them (most adcs are the same btw ), I look for vids on how people play them (eg how do I all in with a specific champ - is there a combo - when do I all in - what's the best way for me to burst - how should I behave in lane with this champ).  Then, I fire up a custom game and try out the mechanics of whatever champ vs AI.  Usually I learn a few tricks during that custom on how to position myself, etc.  Then, I'm off to normal games where I'll request the role or character I'm trying out.  Now, people still report your for being awful in normals, but it really is where you need to try out characters to see if you are any good or not as the bots are useless for proving your skill level to yourself.  So, fire up that normal and ask to play a role (again - after you've tried out the champ against bots).  If you don't know anyone you are with and you are quite awful, I suggest muting everyone at the start of the game.  Then, do your best.  Continue with this until you feel like you have a serviceable skill level in whatever role.  And keep in mind what you need to work on.  For me, I noticed I didn't really have alot of mids for ranked, so I started practicing some with gragas against and karth.  That way, I'll be able to get the job done if I need to play mid.  The next thing I need to do is put more time into being better top lane. Again, because while I prefer adc/support, I might need to play top for the team.  So, best to be ready for it.  Put your time in and practice roles. 

One last thought - there are certain things you can generally expect in ranked.  1 - if you are 1st pick, you generally can call whatever you want.  Common knowledge, I'm sure - but I'll add - CALL WHATEVER YOU WANT.  2 - if you duo queue, you generally can lock down both adc and support.  It works best if your adc is 1st pick, ofc.  I've bumped into like 10 random dedicated supports in all of my games of LoL.  People generally aren't going to call support. So, if you are 1st pick and duo'd, just call adc and then your duo partner can almost always get support.

 

Lol King profiles for ranked tracking

I'm not going to update this regularly, so just consider it a snapshot (I'll add a date when I update them).  Anyway, I enjoy seeing folks progress through ranked and keeping tabs on that sort of thing from time to time. 

Snapshot updated 05/28/2014

 Character guides

Mid Ziggs by cow - http://www.lolking.net/guides/7906

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on Feb 03, 2013

OK, finally fixed network adapter issues.

ProTip: Do not play ranked games with network adapters that you have not tested.  I tried to play with a Wireless USB card which was supposed to be good for gaming.  It was not.  Horrible, horrible lag.  As in, spiking to 3k.  Luckily, my team was terrible, so I'm 99% sure that we would have lost that game anyway.

So I got a nice new network adapter from a local store, and it seems to be working very nicely.  So I'm back in business.

 

And Pacov, 1-7 in ranked?  I can't wait to see what tier you get put in.  It's looking like I'm going to get stuck in some low level silver tier, so it will take me a while to work my way up.

on Feb 03, 2013

Also - if you are going to start a Udyr at some place other than a blue buff, he had better REALLY know what he is doing.  You have no idea what a man whore Udyr is early (220 starting mana, but it costs him 55 mana to flip a stance).  Seriously, go try playing him in jungle without a blue buff sometime.  It is REALLY REALLY ugly.

on Feb 03, 2013

Krazikarl
And Pacov, 1-7 in ranked? I can't wait to see what tier you get put in. It's looking like I'm going to get stuck in some low level silver tier, so it will take me a while to work my way up.

oh I'm on my way waayyyyyy down...

on Feb 03, 2013

I shall now broadcast another solo queue ranked loss.  Time to shine.  http://www.twitch.tv/1pacov1

 

on Feb 03, 2013

it's a pretty fun game.  Played for about an hour and then was kicked off the server (maintenance maybe?).  Anyway, done for now.  Tried out the witch.  I think it will be a really fun game though.

 

server maintenance is announced.  Usually 5 minutes at the most.

 

DC's do happen, mainly during peak hours.  Pretty easy to log back in tho np.

on Feb 03, 2013

i accidentally won a ranked game... 18/4/10 yi. 

on Feb 03, 2013

I feel for yous.

on Feb 03, 2013

i accidentally won a ranked game... 18/4/10 yi. 

 

the irony of you winning with yi makes me laugh.

on Feb 03, 2013

DC's do happen, mainly during peak hours. Pretty easy to log back in tho np.

yah - i got on a little later.  Fun game.

 

pacov is now... bronze div 1... wow...

on Feb 03, 2013

note for me to talk about my thoughts on the league setup - short version - me likes.  long version... other stuff

on Feb 03, 2013

OK - some thoughts before going off to bed.  1st - I think I hit around 1600 elo in season 2.  I didn't really play a hell of a lot of ranked.  Just destroyed playing duo queue with vlad.  After that, I stopped and elo attrition dropped me to a smidge below 1400.  I start back up in pre-season 3.  I duo a bunch with hunnybadger playing as his support.  Maybe about 5 games.  We go like 1 and 4.  I don't really think there was any real fault in my play during that time frame and hunny only blew it like 1 game... we just ended up with smeh teammates so that even if we won our lane, there would be 2 other lanes that were feeding.  In short, not a hell of a lot that we could do.  So, I decide, fuck it.  I'm going to solo queue.  It will definitely feel good to "earn" my elo straight up in solo queue.  From there, I go like 2/5. This puts me 3/10.  That puts me in tier 1 of bronze.  So, I fight a little bit and will hit silver pretty quickly, I'd think. 

Out of all the games I've played (w and w/o hunny), I feel like I personally underperformed 1 time.  That's it.  2 of those 10 games actually had outright trolls in them (1 game was an ori jungler, the other I can't remember)... both games were folks saying they were trolling... so, out of all my games, I lose 20% of them because of people intentionally being asses. 

The last game I played in my 10 placement matches was the biggest POS on earth (we won, btw).  We get a team that chooses not to jungle.  I'm 1st pick and ask the support to let me pick for them and they pick up my mid.  They ask me to pick thresh.  I do.  Then when its time to swap, they don't have thresh.  Was pretty awesome.  Then I end up laning as thresh with Riven top (no jungle).  We destroy, get 2 towers, and then Riven dc's for 10-12 minutes.  I'm happy as a schoolgirl.  Anyway, the other team was atrocious and we eventually win somehow.  It was an utter nightmare.  

Anyway, if my assessment is correct and I lost 20% because of trolls, 10% because I underperformed, and then 40% because of crap players, you'd think I'd be discouraged.  Actually, I'm not.  I like the new league system.  I never really had anxiety over playing ranked, but typically just had too many folks online to bother with ranked (tis true - if you watch my stream, I almost never am solo... which is nice and not nice if you want to play solo queue).  Now, I'm actually excited to get some solo ranked in.  I've always considered myself a well rounded player.  Not amazing, but pretty solid in most roles (fuck you, jungle).  I want to transition into someone that can carry even with the worst POS team on earth.  That's a challenge.  It also forces me to request, 100% of the time, roles that can carry.  I've been focusing in on mid as I think that has the most potential to carry.  I can "kind of" carry as "support" lux, so I can always pull that if I need to support, but I really don't want to rely on any teammate to carry me and just be pleasantly surprised if they do a good job. 

So, even if I continue to get my ass kicked, I'm excited to try to rise through my bullshit tier 1 bronze league and wander over into silver.  We'll see how that goes.  I still don't really know how quickly I can rise in a tier, but I'll have an idea soon.  I certainly feel like I'm better than a bronze player and I'm looking forward to show that. 

Last - consider firing up some ranked if you have not and just try to have fun.  Nothing to stress about.  Good ol crappy pacov will likely be below you anyway. 

on Feb 04, 2013

I'm off to bed - please enjoy...

http://www.twitch.tv/1pacov1/c/1894992

 

on Feb 04, 2013

Its so frustrating to lose easily winnable games because of teammates who just dont get it.  Of my first 5 losses, at least 2 were easily winnable if we just had non completely stupid teammates.  As in, they just have to be there when they are grouping.  Instead I have things like this Riven who insists that he must farm to "catch up" 35 minutes into the game while they are taking 2 towers plus inhibitor.  But hey, those 20 cs he got will totally make up for the 1500 gold they got from turrets, plus the inhib.

I just don't get why people have so many problems teamfighting.  All you have to do is be close enough so that you can be at the fight if it gets engaged.  But this repeatedly eludes people in solo queue.  They repeatedly split off, somebody gets caught, 4 people die.  Repeat 3 or 4 times, and a game that you were winning turns into a stupid lose.  What is so hard about not splitting off all the time?  I never get this.

on Feb 04, 2013

karl - you should probably try to spend some time playing as more squishy characters like adc or most mids.  Some people are just full retards when it comes to positioning, but it really requires some thought from time to time and a decent team comp.  For instance, if I'm doing my ap yi rubbish, I really need to think a bit about my positioning... probably more than with any other character I play (any role).  You have to keep in mind how much damage you can do, where you will end up if you hit X person or creep, can you disengage quickly and wait for cds, how long should I wait before going in, etc.  You mostly play tanky characters that are good initiators or that can simply absorb a lot of damage (eg your positioning is a formula consisting of are we all here, is there an opportunity for something, and getting right in the thick of things - other roles have to consider who's trying to kill me, can I kill them or a priority target 1st, etc). 

that said, if all you are talking about is people just running off to farm shit when they should be somewhere else... well... just ignore what I said.  I don't understand it either.  The majority of my games have people going off where they shouldn't be and then either getting caught or giving up an objective or turret or inhib.  Kind of mindblowing. 

 

on Feb 04, 2013

Pacov, I hate you.  Stop bragging about all that good luck you've been having.

 

I just dropped a rank, five games in a row, support for an utterly incompetent collection of boobs that couldn't kill a fly with a nuke.

 

I actually had the highest champion damage this last game with support Zyra,  they surrendered at 20 without doing any team fights so it's not like I got to build AP late game.  I outdid my carry twice yesterday with Taric too.  Oh to have even just a mildly retarded ad carry that does dumb shit like tower diving for a 1/1 trade when he's worth more.  I might even get excited over someone that could just hold their own at this point.

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