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Well, I started a thread  back in August (https://forums.joeuser.com/411269/) that's seen a lot of activity and actually had quite a few good bits of information for new and old players alike.  I figure it's time to start a new thread and perhaps keep the OP up-to-date with useful information, etc.  Feel free to use this post for any LoL discussion, etc.

Super fast background:  I played a lot of Demigod as pacov/cheesuscrust.  Back in August 2011 or so, I started getting heavily involved in LoL and folks have been kind enough to chime in with tips and links to various sites that have been quite useful to me.  In addition, I've been able to keep up with folks that I've played Demigod with in the past and meet some new folks that play LoL and frequent these message boards. 

Here's some of the things I've learned in the previous thread:

 New Player tips

  • Play the tutorial.
  • Consider picking up the starter bundle.  It's 530 RP (that's about $4).  You get 8 champs unlocked, a 4 win IP boost and a 10 win XP boost.  It's a pretty good deal (used it recently on an alt account).  You can find it in the game store under bundles.
  • Riot gives you 400 RP as soon as you hit level 5.  It's enough to buy some skins, a boost, or a cheap character. 
  • Learn to last hit!  Last hitting is simply landing the last hit on creeps.  If you last hit, you get gold for that kill.  The number of creeps you have killed is tracked in a value called CS.  You can see this number in the top right hand corner of the ui or by pressing tab.  Here's a really simple tutorial re: last hitting if you are brand new - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LheiRB76x5g
  • Read some guides on any character you want to try out.  The recommended builds (what you see when you go to a shop) are not optimal.  The guides include item suggestions and skill orders.  These are very useful in learning decent ways to build characters
  • Use the rune combiner to get level 3 runes prior to level 20 if you like.  You will need 375 IP.  Buy any tier 1 rune that costs 15 IP.  You need to purchase 25 of these.  Click on your rune page.  In the bottom right hand corner there is a button called the Rune Combiner.  If you place 5 runes in there, you can get a random rune that is 1 tier higher (eg if you have 5 tier 1 runes, you will get 1 random tier 2 rune.  Anyway, the math works out such that you spend 375 IP ( buy 25 tier 1 15 IP runes) and you get 1 completely random tier 3 rune.  Some of the quintessences are 2k IP, so if you luck out and get one of those, you just won the lottery.  You can always keep the random tier 2 rune if you end up with something good and don't want to trade it out yet.
  • Consider setting aside IP for tier 3 runes (available at level 20 and above).  You can't purchase them with real money - only IP.  Keep that in mind.

Great site I visit every day for LoL related news - http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends

pacov's misc info

Here's a guide I made

pacov's Guide to Improving at League of Legends and Moving Up in Elo

k - so I'm just going to put down some of my thoughts.  I'm not amazing at this game, but I do certain things that improve my odds of winning in ranked and so far its panning out just fine (bronze 5 to gold 5 in about a month or so).  We all have varied skill levels, so some of this might be useful and some not.  Caveat complete.

Prerequisite- you need to know how to play every single role.  You don't have to be a god at every single role (more power to you if you are - I'm certainly not).  You need to be able to play at a serviceable level in every single role and excel at least at 1 role (preferably 2).  In my case, I'm good at support and adc.  I'm not great, but have serviceable mids and jungles and so so tops.  Knowing what you are good at and bad at is very important.  If you don't know, I can probably tell you - but you really should know...  Anyway, you need to have enough champs to make solid picks in any role and you need to be able to cover any role if it comes down to it.  I'll talk about how to get better at specific roles in a bit.

Champ select advice - Don't be the "fill" guy unless you really feel like you are awesome in all roles.  Call your preferred role immediately when you hit the lobby.  Say "adc pref."  Do this as soon as you hit the lobby.  Some people believe that if you call a role you magically get it.  This is stupid, but if you call something out, folks will often accomodate your request.  If you are feeling wishy washy for whatever reason, call out multiple roles in order of what you want to play - "adc/mid pref."  In my experience, you generally do not want to call support.  It's a very important role, but you want to be in a position to carry every single game if possible.  If you aren't calling out a role, you are hoping that other players can carry you.  If you are hoping that folks will carry you, you don't deserve to win.  You need to know your best roles and you absolutely should request them.

Solo or duo in ranked? - Well, my 1st thought here is that you should solo.  If you solo, you have to rely on yourself.  IMO - its a much bigger test of skill to play solo and win than to duo.  Do you want someone to carry you or do you really want to know that you are actually good?  That said, provided you have the right duo partner, you can increase your odds of winning quite a bit.  The simple math is that instead of having 4 teammates as unknown quantities, you only have 3.  If you have a good duo teammate, you know what you can expect.  When you duo, you get the most bang for your buck by having complimentary roles.  Support/adc is good; jungle/mid also works.  Even if you don't have direct symmetry in roles, if you are an amazing mid and I'm an amazing adc, our odds go up quite a bit if we both get those roles.  Our odds go way down if we can't get those roles and are forced to play out of positions that we are weaker.  For example, Bryff is a good mid.  If he duo's up with me, the only way he will get to play that role is for me to call mid, take it myself, and then put myself into a position like support where I can't carry out of (I'm always 1st pick, Bryff is always last pick when we duo)... that and I have to show the mid I'm picking at the start which means Bryff gets hard countered.  In short, we can expect that we will be a disadvantage when duo queuing.  Now, if Bryff queued up with someone at a lower elo than himself that was solid, he'd likely be 1st pick and be able to get mid and have a better chance of carrying the game.  Anyway, you need to keep in mind where you end up in pick order when duoing if you aren't looking to go adc/support.  If you want that, you can usually get it. 

How do you get better in roles that you are not good at? - Well, here's what I do.  And this is really what I do on a regular basis.  I think about what I'm good at and what I'm not good at.  For instance, I realized that I don't play any hyper carry ads.  So, I read up on hyper carries like vayne and kog maw.  I look for guides on how to build them (most adcs are the same btw ), I look for vids on how people play them (eg how do I all in with a specific champ - is there a combo - when do I all in - what's the best way for me to burst - how should I behave in lane with this champ).  Then, I fire up a custom game and try out the mechanics of whatever champ vs AI.  Usually I learn a few tricks during that custom on how to position myself, etc.  Then, I'm off to normal games where I'll request the role or character I'm trying out.  Now, people still report your for being awful in normals, but it really is where you need to try out characters to see if you are any good or not as the bots are useless for proving your skill level to yourself.  So, fire up that normal and ask to play a role (again - after you've tried out the champ against bots).  If you don't know anyone you are with and you are quite awful, I suggest muting everyone at the start of the game.  Then, do your best.  Continue with this until you feel like you have a serviceable skill level in whatever role.  And keep in mind what you need to work on.  For me, I noticed I didn't really have alot of mids for ranked, so I started practicing some with gragas against and karth.  That way, I'll be able to get the job done if I need to play mid.  The next thing I need to do is put more time into being better top lane. Again, because while I prefer adc/support, I might need to play top for the team.  So, best to be ready for it.  Put your time in and practice roles. 

One last thought - there are certain things you can generally expect in ranked.  1 - if you are 1st pick, you generally can call whatever you want.  Common knowledge, I'm sure - but I'll add - CALL WHATEVER YOU WANT.  2 - if you duo queue, you generally can lock down both adc and support.  It works best if your adc is 1st pick, ofc.  I've bumped into like 10 random dedicated supports in all of my games of LoL.  People generally aren't going to call support. So, if you are 1st pick and duo'd, just call adc and then your duo partner can almost always get support.

 

Lol King profiles for ranked tracking

I'm not going to update this regularly, so just consider it a snapshot (I'll add a date when I update them).  Anyway, I enjoy seeing folks progress through ranked and keeping tabs on that sort of thing from time to time. 

Snapshot updated 05/28/2014

 Character guides

Mid Ziggs by cow - http://www.lolking.net/guides/7906

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on Apr 17, 2013

I'm goin to be late for work watchin' the return of peter... EXCITING... So  yeah, going to a convention this weekend... probably see you all Sunday night?

on Apr 17, 2013

I wouldn't hold your breath over pete.  Be nice if we see him tho.

on Apr 17, 2013

I've been doing Eve lots on dominion, which I know is different than rift but I feel that mid-late game I can be really strong.  I think most times I followed that ziggs around, there was a few times I decided to try to fast push to tower though, can't really remember.  Mostly I don't like initiating a roam myself because it'll turn out that their mid pushes fast, and the other lane which I thought I might be able to do something in, actually can't, and forcing it in a bad situation with brute force gets hp down lots, making it hard to go back to def.  But I don't really mid other chars than kassadin so practice in that game (which we were ahead mostly I felt) was good.

And I realize that with cs I'm not perfect.  Also, depending on how much time I have, I'll likely want to play not support if I only have time for 1 game, but if I do more than sure.  I'd also like to do more jungling even though my eve sucks.  I do some jungling with other pals and it works out great, but that's at a bit lower elo I'm sure.

on Apr 17, 2013



Quoting pacov, reply 3094

Quoting Bryff, reply 3093Mostly I don't like initiating a roam myself because it'll turn out that their mid pushes fast


That's the thing you need to work on.  Caveat - I know I'm not a great mid, but I think I follow the nuances well.  When you play mid, your goal is to set the tone of mid lane.  I'm tired, so I won't cover all the crap I'm thinking of, but I will cover the basics.  You need to make the enemy mid FEEL the way you feel (eg I don't like roaming because their mid pushes fast).  You can do that by clearing a wave quickly, or running to the left or right side out of sight.  If the enemy doesn't know where the fug you are, they call mia. If you pop back into lane, they say re:.  If you do this often enough and quickly enough, they will stop calling mia. and that is when eve shines.  She goes invisible.  Mid doesnt' know where you are.  The easiest thing to do is to last hit with eve in lane and push the wave a bit.  Then move out of sight towards top.  Keep doing this.  Eventually the mid feels pressure to roam top as well.  Eve is a champ that has HUGE pressure because of her passive.  If you are visible on the map all the time to the enemy mid, YOU SHOULD NOT PLAY EVE.  It's a huge waste.  Her adv is that you don't know where the fug she is.  So, VANISH. Bottom line -THINK about how you would feel if you are on the other side fighting you.  If you disappeared OFTEN at close to full hp, what would you think?  And then its just a matter of deciding to gank.  Remember  - you can always run TP if you don't think you will likely score an early kill 1v1 mid.  That enables you to either quickly tp to gank or roam and quickly tp back.

I think you are doing just fine, mr bryff.  You'll be a solid player as long as you want to put the time into becoming one.  Almost there imo,

on Apr 18, 2013

Soo... apparently there is already another new map that is completed and will likely be used for the all star game.  Riot confirmed its real, but also said there are no official plans to use this outside of the all start game.  The map is designed for 1v1 and 2v2.

http://v.qq.com/cover/q/qt82fulk8hicsyc.html?vid=f01121849t9

 

also this is on pbe now:

 

on Apr 18, 2013

Another cool QoL change on pbe - you can now see the division/league of your pals in the buddy list.  This is really nice for folks like me that enjoy seeing how their pals are progressing in ranked.

also new s2 championship skins coming - http://www.surrenderat20.net/2013/04/commemorative-tpa-s2-world-champ-skins.html

There was talk about letting leona proc her passive herself (eg should be be a viable jungler of sorts).  This was WISELY shut down.  She would be an absolute beast as support (you'd be able to proc your sunlight yourself like 3 times and the dmg output would be even more sick).

also - skin sale this weekend is a good one.  I believe all of the skins for sale are the ones that will have their price increase to 1350 sortly.  I'm going to pick up the kha'zix skin methinks.

on Apr 18, 2013

booo... I thought they put the kha'zix skin on sale... no deal.

on Apr 18, 2013

I updated the OP with info on the mods and programs I'm using.  just scroll to the bottom if interested.

on Apr 19, 2013

So, I'm doing some overnight work last night when all the latest boston stuff starts going down... next thing I know I'm listening to police scanners and watching the latest news until 4AM.  Crazy.  Apparently, the reddit folks "thought" they heard a name over that police scanner of a Indian-american student that was has been missing for the past 2 months.  This turned out to be false, but that quickly spread for a bit in the wee hours of the morning.  Still waiting to hear more stuff.

Also lol reddit appears to have been under a dos attack...

on Apr 19, 2013

good guy riot gave me a partial refund on astronaut nautilus.  nice.

on Apr 19, 2013

I am playing with pete.  he is my support.  the show begins

 

on Apr 20, 2013

we are playing a 5v5 in house game INCLUDING PETER!

http://www.twitch.tv/1pacov1

 

on Apr 20, 2013

Fun games - check out the old vids on the stream if interested.  We got to play with pete and a mostly new crew tonight.  And then even mr cow showed up.  Fun games.  Hope to catch you guys again tomorrow.  Night!

on Apr 20, 2013

pic of that 2nd piece of shite.  You know, the captured scumbag bomber: 

on Apr 20, 2013

Here are links to our our 2 5v5 in house games from 4/19 - both games have peterdumptruck in them.  Game 1 has a drunk sharplet and game 2 has the return of cowbutt.

http://www.twitch.tv/1pacov1/c/2182163

http://www.twitch.tv/1pacov1/c/2182173

 

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