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Well, I started a thread  back in August (https://forums.joeuser.com/411269/) that's seen a lot of activity and actually had quite a few good bits of information for new and old players alike.  I figure it's time to start a new thread and perhaps keep the OP up-to-date with useful information, etc.  Feel free to use this post for any LoL discussion, etc.

Super fast background:  I played a lot of Demigod as pacov/cheesuscrust.  Back in August 2011 or so, I started getting heavily involved in LoL and folks have been kind enough to chime in with tips and links to various sites that have been quite useful to me.  In addition, I've been able to keep up with folks that I've played Demigod with in the past and meet some new folks that play LoL and frequent these message boards. 

Here's some of the things I've learned in the previous thread:

 New Player tips

  • Play the tutorial.
  • Consider picking up the starter bundle.  It's 530 RP (that's about $4).  You get 8 champs unlocked, a 4 win IP boost and a 10 win XP boost.  It's a pretty good deal (used it recently on an alt account).  You can find it in the game store under bundles.
  • Riot gives you 400 RP as soon as you hit level 5.  It's enough to buy some skins, a boost, or a cheap character. 
  • Learn to last hit!  Last hitting is simply landing the last hit on creeps.  If you last hit, you get gold for that kill.  The number of creeps you have killed is tracked in a value called CS.  You can see this number in the top right hand corner of the ui or by pressing tab.  Here's a really simple tutorial re: last hitting if you are brand new - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LheiRB76x5g
  • Read some guides on any character you want to try out.  The recommended builds (what you see when you go to a shop) are not optimal.  The guides include item suggestions and skill orders.  These are very useful in learning decent ways to build characters
  • Use the rune combiner to get level 3 runes prior to level 20 if you like.  You will need 375 IP.  Buy any tier 1 rune that costs 15 IP.  You need to purchase 25 of these.  Click on your rune page.  In the bottom right hand corner there is a button called the Rune Combiner.  If you place 5 runes in there, you can get a random rune that is 1 tier higher (eg if you have 5 tier 1 runes, you will get 1 random tier 2 rune.  Anyway, the math works out such that you spend 375 IP ( buy 25 tier 1 15 IP runes) and you get 1 completely random tier 3 rune.  Some of the quintessences are 2k IP, so if you luck out and get one of those, you just won the lottery.  You can always keep the random tier 2 rune if you end up with something good and don't want to trade it out yet.
  • Consider setting aside IP for tier 3 runes (available at level 20 and above).  You can't purchase them with real money - only IP.  Keep that in mind.

Great site I visit every day for LoL related news - http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends

pacov's misc info

Here's a guide I made

pacov's Guide to Improving at League of Legends and Moving Up in Elo

k - so I'm just going to put down some of my thoughts.  I'm not amazing at this game, but I do certain things that improve my odds of winning in ranked and so far its panning out just fine (bronze 5 to gold 5 in about a month or so).  We all have varied skill levels, so some of this might be useful and some not.  Caveat complete.

Prerequisite- you need to know how to play every single role.  You don't have to be a god at every single role (more power to you if you are - I'm certainly not).  You need to be able to play at a serviceable level in every single role and excel at least at 1 role (preferably 2).  In my case, I'm good at support and adc.  I'm not great, but have serviceable mids and jungles and so so tops.  Knowing what you are good at and bad at is very important.  If you don't know, I can probably tell you - but you really should know...  Anyway, you need to have enough champs to make solid picks in any role and you need to be able to cover any role if it comes down to it.  I'll talk about how to get better at specific roles in a bit.

Champ select advice - Don't be the "fill" guy unless you really feel like you are awesome in all roles.  Call your preferred role immediately when you hit the lobby.  Say "adc pref."  Do this as soon as you hit the lobby.  Some people believe that if you call a role you magically get it.  This is stupid, but if you call something out, folks will often accomodate your request.  If you are feeling wishy washy for whatever reason, call out multiple roles in order of what you want to play - "adc/mid pref."  In my experience, you generally do not want to call support.  It's a very important role, but you want to be in a position to carry every single game if possible.  If you aren't calling out a role, you are hoping that other players can carry you.  If you are hoping that folks will carry you, you don't deserve to win.  You need to know your best roles and you absolutely should request them.

Solo or duo in ranked? - Well, my 1st thought here is that you should solo.  If you solo, you have to rely on yourself.  IMO - its a much bigger test of skill to play solo and win than to duo.  Do you want someone to carry you or do you really want to know that you are actually good?  That said, provided you have the right duo partner, you can increase your odds of winning quite a bit.  The simple math is that instead of having 4 teammates as unknown quantities, you only have 3.  If you have a good duo teammate, you know what you can expect.  When you duo, you get the most bang for your buck by having complimentary roles.  Support/adc is good; jungle/mid also works.  Even if you don't have direct symmetry in roles, if you are an amazing mid and I'm an amazing adc, our odds go up quite a bit if we both get those roles.  Our odds go way down if we can't get those roles and are forced to play out of positions that we are weaker.  For example, Bryff is a good mid.  If he duo's up with me, the only way he will get to play that role is for me to call mid, take it myself, and then put myself into a position like support where I can't carry out of (I'm always 1st pick, Bryff is always last pick when we duo)... that and I have to show the mid I'm picking at the start which means Bryff gets hard countered.  In short, we can expect that we will be a disadvantage when duo queuing.  Now, if Bryff queued up with someone at a lower elo than himself that was solid, he'd likely be 1st pick and be able to get mid and have a better chance of carrying the game.  Anyway, you need to keep in mind where you end up in pick order when duoing if you aren't looking to go adc/support.  If you want that, you can usually get it. 

How do you get better in roles that you are not good at? - Well, here's what I do.  And this is really what I do on a regular basis.  I think about what I'm good at and what I'm not good at.  For instance, I realized that I don't play any hyper carry ads.  So, I read up on hyper carries like vayne and kog maw.  I look for guides on how to build them (most adcs are the same btw ), I look for vids on how people play them (eg how do I all in with a specific champ - is there a combo - when do I all in - what's the best way for me to burst - how should I behave in lane with this champ).  Then, I fire up a custom game and try out the mechanics of whatever champ vs AI.  Usually I learn a few tricks during that custom on how to position myself, etc.  Then, I'm off to normal games where I'll request the role or character I'm trying out.  Now, people still report your for being awful in normals, but it really is where you need to try out characters to see if you are any good or not as the bots are useless for proving your skill level to yourself.  So, fire up that normal and ask to play a role (again - after you've tried out the champ against bots).  If you don't know anyone you are with and you are quite awful, I suggest muting everyone at the start of the game.  Then, do your best.  Continue with this until you feel like you have a serviceable skill level in whatever role.  And keep in mind what you need to work on.  For me, I noticed I didn't really have alot of mids for ranked, so I started practicing some with gragas against and karth.  That way, I'll be able to get the job done if I need to play mid.  The next thing I need to do is put more time into being better top lane. Again, because while I prefer adc/support, I might need to play top for the team.  So, best to be ready for it.  Put your time in and practice roles. 

One last thought - there are certain things you can generally expect in ranked.  1 - if you are 1st pick, you generally can call whatever you want.  Common knowledge, I'm sure - but I'll add - CALL WHATEVER YOU WANT.  2 - if you duo queue, you generally can lock down both adc and support.  It works best if your adc is 1st pick, ofc.  I've bumped into like 10 random dedicated supports in all of my games of LoL.  People generally aren't going to call support. So, if you are 1st pick and duo'd, just call adc and then your duo partner can almost always get support.

 

Lol King profiles for ranked tracking

I'm not going to update this regularly, so just consider it a snapshot (I'll add a date when I update them).  Anyway, I enjoy seeing folks progress through ranked and keeping tabs on that sort of thing from time to time. 

Snapshot updated 05/28/2014

 Character guides

Mid Ziggs by cow - http://www.lolking.net/guides/7906

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on May 29, 2013

3 of my last 5 ranked games have had non skill related losses.  Streaming a movie?  Likely to get copyright claimed-taken down.  I know a stream that did for streaming some movies.

Just played a really fun game though.  It was epic.  We were behind/inhib down and getting pushed other lanes all day, when we go into a baron fight.  The malphite manages to kill their adc somehow, and we pull out with the baron.  There ended up being 2 smite steals by rammus, and we ended up with the win.

on May 29, 2013

I'm not too worried about any CR concerns it will likely be a 1 time thing of a vid currently hosted on youtube... and as my viewer base is kind of just you folks, I'm not too concerned about being on the radar.  At any rate, if I do such a thing, I'll remove the recording, so its likely just going to be a 1 time thing. 

Glad you got a win in a rough game after some annoying losses.  Always makes one feel a smidge better.

on May 29, 2013

Hey thanks for the skin

Hehe yeah crazy stupid malphite but I owned with Kassadin - was fun

on May 29, 2013


 

#wards:

Pretty sure Ms Swan bought way too many pink wards that game. 15 pink wards???

 

 

Never enough wards!  If i'm sitting at 250 gold when i'm back i'm not gonna save... it's going to the ward bank

on May 30, 2013

If you ever want to see absolute chaos reign, you need Brad wong's buddy frayly to jungle and to put jona and peter at bottom lane.  Jona and Peter were about ready to murder each other; Jona then decides that he will now midlane after his war with pete.  Things escalated pretty quickly... which I obviously should have seen coming.  Anyway, another 2 added to the list of people that won't be playing together in the future.  So... sorry for that folks that endured.

That said, I did appear to accidentally fall asleep while streaming the classic cinema "Cool as Ice" - http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/cool_as_ice/.

You should take a look at that review btw.  Anyway, you'll have to ff through the archived vid if you want to take a look (its the last vid I have up) - probably starts around 4-5 hours in.  I'll very, very, very likely be deleting the stream, so I suggest you check it out today or tomorrow if interested. 

@bryff - np and you are welcome.

Sorry I missed ya, swan.  Hopefully soon we shall play.

 

on May 30, 2013

yeah... i'm workin' til 11pm your time... saturday is my next day off... i'm sure i'll be seeing you then!

on May 30, 2013

My internet at work has been super slow... I can't even let them get started downloading and watch them later at my leisure.  

I did try watching a little of the stream with Pete while the movie was playing.  That dude's a natural!  The MST3K boys should hire him...

on May 30, 2013

yah - pete can be pretty damn entertaining if you catch him not in a foul mood.  Glad you got to enjoy a bit of it. 

on May 30, 2013

I'm always sad because I want to play with pacov 24/7

on May 31, 2013

Had quite a few mismatches in our favor yesterday.  Played some with bryff's pal PJ - he was pretty smeh as a jungler but did a great job as adc.  The night before i did nothing but aram.  Happy to say I'm starting to get sick of ARAM again.  I actually have a group of folks that I know prefer ARAM and a SR grouping now.  I usually just do whatever based on who is on in those groups at the time. 

Also, I'm not really sure why there are problems with custom item sets.  I'm thinking it could be related to being able to manual edit the custom item files.  No idea though.  When I reinstalled my OS, etc, last week, I lost all of the custom items I created.  I was all set to log in yesterday and set them up again... only to see they have been killed off. 

Other random stuff - I had a buddy from Demigod name ruispg or something like that.  Anyway, he plays on EU and speaks fairly broken english, but you can eventually understand him if you wait about a bit.  Nice guy generally.  Onto pacov's pet peeve.  Back when I played DG, I was typically able to get folks to look at things that needed fixed at SD/GPG, get abusers removed, etc.  This often led to folks coming to me directly if they encountered folks cheating, abusing, major bugs were found, etc.  Anyway, it was a bit of a pain in the ass from time to time as lots of folks would contact me about this or that.  Rui was one of those fellows from time to time.  Anyway, I don't really play LoL with him and he occasionally hits me up on skype via text msg.  The last instance of this, he was asking if I knew someone at Riot that could help him out related to a problem on EUNE or EUW.  I should have just told him nope and moved along (though I could probably be a pain in the ass and pester janook at any rate as I at least know the guy from DG).  Anyway, I get pissy because he'd been randomly sending me txt msgs when I'm not on for little to no reason and then making that request to get someone at riot to help me.  I drop the guy from skype.  He msgs me later asking why I dropped him.  So I block him.  I am a moody SOB from time to time... side note... no real reason to have told that story as it isn't all that bloody interesting... but I wrote it... so there's that.  sry!

Anyway, I'll be on later tonight. 

 

on May 31, 2013

close to last chance to check out that vid I mentioned a few posts back.  I'll prob remove at the end of the night.

on May 31, 2013

How does one teamfight against a sejuani, orianna, and wukong?!

on May 31, 2013

With AP Kog.

 

Slightly more seriously.  Stay the fuck out of the jungle against a comp like that.  If you don't have a decent long range poke, you need to go tanky dps on at least two people, and stay spread.  Ward well, keep from bunching up, and wait for them to jump one of your meatwalls.  As soon as Sej burns that godawful ult, peel for your carries and assassinate theirs.

 

If your CC sucks and you have no decent long range poke, you don't.  They'll win any all in you initiate, and you can't force them to initiate without a poke.  The only thing you can hope for is that they're stupid and let you pick them off.

on May 31, 2013


How does one teamfight against a sejuani, orianna, and wukong?!
Have janna support, a strong poke comp, or a split push comp. No reason to teamfight when it plays into their teams strength. (that or have Amumu/Fiddle/other strong AoEs)

Edit: Or you could actually just stay in a loose formation to where their AoEs would only hit 1 or 2 people on your team at most. Grouping close against a team like that is asking to lose.

Edit2: Also, you have to keep the jungle warded against that team no matter what.

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