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Well, I started a thread  back in August (https://forums.joeuser.com/411269/) that's seen a lot of activity and actually had quite a few good bits of information for new and old players alike.  I figure it's time to start a new thread and perhaps keep the OP up-to-date with useful information, etc.  Feel free to use this post for any LoL discussion, etc.

Super fast background:  I played a lot of Demigod as pacov/cheesuscrust.  Back in August 2011 or so, I started getting heavily involved in LoL and folks have been kind enough to chime in with tips and links to various sites that have been quite useful to me.  In addition, I've been able to keep up with folks that I've played Demigod with in the past and meet some new folks that play LoL and frequent these message boards. 

Here's some of the things I've learned in the previous thread:

 New Player tips

  • Play the tutorial.
  • Consider picking up the starter bundle.  It's 530 RP (that's about $4).  You get 8 champs unlocked, a 4 win IP boost and a 10 win XP boost.  It's a pretty good deal (used it recently on an alt account).  You can find it in the game store under bundles.
  • Riot gives you 400 RP as soon as you hit level 5.  It's enough to buy some skins, a boost, or a cheap character. 
  • Learn to last hit!  Last hitting is simply landing the last hit on creeps.  If you last hit, you get gold for that kill.  The number of creeps you have killed is tracked in a value called CS.  You can see this number in the top right hand corner of the ui or by pressing tab.  Here's a really simple tutorial re: last hitting if you are brand new - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LheiRB76x5g
  • Read some guides on any character you want to try out.  The recommended builds (what you see when you go to a shop) are not optimal.  The guides include item suggestions and skill orders.  These are very useful in learning decent ways to build characters
  • Use the rune combiner to get level 3 runes prior to level 20 if you like.  You will need 375 IP.  Buy any tier 1 rune that costs 15 IP.  You need to purchase 25 of these.  Click on your rune page.  In the bottom right hand corner there is a button called the Rune Combiner.  If you place 5 runes in there, you can get a random rune that is 1 tier higher (eg if you have 5 tier 1 runes, you will get 1 random tier 2 rune.  Anyway, the math works out such that you spend 375 IP ( buy 25 tier 1 15 IP runes) and you get 1 completely random tier 3 rune.  Some of the quintessences are 2k IP, so if you luck out and get one of those, you just won the lottery.  You can always keep the random tier 2 rune if you end up with something good and don't want to trade it out yet.
  • Consider setting aside IP for tier 3 runes (available at level 20 and above).  You can't purchase them with real money - only IP.  Keep that in mind.

Great site I visit every day for LoL related news - http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends

pacov's misc info

Here's a guide I made

pacov's Guide to Improving at League of Legends and Moving Up in Elo

k - so I'm just going to put down some of my thoughts.  I'm not amazing at this game, but I do certain things that improve my odds of winning in ranked and so far its panning out just fine (bronze 5 to gold 5 in about a month or so).  We all have varied skill levels, so some of this might be useful and some not.  Caveat complete.

Prerequisite- you need to know how to play every single role.  You don't have to be a god at every single role (more power to you if you are - I'm certainly not).  You need to be able to play at a serviceable level in every single role and excel at least at 1 role (preferably 2).  In my case, I'm good at support and adc.  I'm not great, but have serviceable mids and jungles and so so tops.  Knowing what you are good at and bad at is very important.  If you don't know, I can probably tell you - but you really should know...  Anyway, you need to have enough champs to make solid picks in any role and you need to be able to cover any role if it comes down to it.  I'll talk about how to get better at specific roles in a bit.

Champ select advice - Don't be the "fill" guy unless you really feel like you are awesome in all roles.  Call your preferred role immediately when you hit the lobby.  Say "adc pref."  Do this as soon as you hit the lobby.  Some people believe that if you call a role you magically get it.  This is stupid, but if you call something out, folks will often accomodate your request.  If you are feeling wishy washy for whatever reason, call out multiple roles in order of what you want to play - "adc/mid pref."  In my experience, you generally do not want to call support.  It's a very important role, but you want to be in a position to carry every single game if possible.  If you aren't calling out a role, you are hoping that other players can carry you.  If you are hoping that folks will carry you, you don't deserve to win.  You need to know your best roles and you absolutely should request them.

Solo or duo in ranked? - Well, my 1st thought here is that you should solo.  If you solo, you have to rely on yourself.  IMO - its a much bigger test of skill to play solo and win than to duo.  Do you want someone to carry you or do you really want to know that you are actually good?  That said, provided you have the right duo partner, you can increase your odds of winning quite a bit.  The simple math is that instead of having 4 teammates as unknown quantities, you only have 3.  If you have a good duo teammate, you know what you can expect.  When you duo, you get the most bang for your buck by having complimentary roles.  Support/adc is good; jungle/mid also works.  Even if you don't have direct symmetry in roles, if you are an amazing mid and I'm an amazing adc, our odds go up quite a bit if we both get those roles.  Our odds go way down if we can't get those roles and are forced to play out of positions that we are weaker.  For example, Bryff is a good mid.  If he duo's up with me, the only way he will get to play that role is for me to call mid, take it myself, and then put myself into a position like support where I can't carry out of (I'm always 1st pick, Bryff is always last pick when we duo)... that and I have to show the mid I'm picking at the start which means Bryff gets hard countered.  In short, we can expect that we will be a disadvantage when duo queuing.  Now, if Bryff queued up with someone at a lower elo than himself that was solid, he'd likely be 1st pick and be able to get mid and have a better chance of carrying the game.  Anyway, you need to keep in mind where you end up in pick order when duoing if you aren't looking to go adc/support.  If you want that, you can usually get it. 

How do you get better in roles that you are not good at? - Well, here's what I do.  And this is really what I do on a regular basis.  I think about what I'm good at and what I'm not good at.  For instance, I realized that I don't play any hyper carry ads.  So, I read up on hyper carries like vayne and kog maw.  I look for guides on how to build them (most adcs are the same btw ), I look for vids on how people play them (eg how do I all in with a specific champ - is there a combo - when do I all in - what's the best way for me to burst - how should I behave in lane with this champ).  Then, I fire up a custom game and try out the mechanics of whatever champ vs AI.  Usually I learn a few tricks during that custom on how to position myself, etc.  Then, I'm off to normal games where I'll request the role or character I'm trying out.  Now, people still report your for being awful in normals, but it really is where you need to try out characters to see if you are any good or not as the bots are useless for proving your skill level to yourself.  So, fire up that normal and ask to play a role (again - after you've tried out the champ against bots).  If you don't know anyone you are with and you are quite awful, I suggest muting everyone at the start of the game.  Then, do your best.  Continue with this until you feel like you have a serviceable skill level in whatever role.  And keep in mind what you need to work on.  For me, I noticed I didn't really have alot of mids for ranked, so I started practicing some with gragas against and karth.  That way, I'll be able to get the job done if I need to play mid.  The next thing I need to do is put more time into being better top lane. Again, because while I prefer adc/support, I might need to play top for the team.  So, best to be ready for it.  Put your time in and practice roles. 

One last thought - there are certain things you can generally expect in ranked.  1 - if you are 1st pick, you generally can call whatever you want.  Common knowledge, I'm sure - but I'll add - CALL WHATEVER YOU WANT.  2 - if you duo queue, you generally can lock down both adc and support.  It works best if your adc is 1st pick, ofc.  I've bumped into like 10 random dedicated supports in all of my games of LoL.  People generally aren't going to call support. So, if you are 1st pick and duo'd, just call adc and then your duo partner can almost always get support.

 

Lol King profiles for ranked tracking

I'm not going to update this regularly, so just consider it a snapshot (I'll add a date when I update them).  Anyway, I enjoy seeing folks progress through ranked and keeping tabs on that sort of thing from time to time. 

Snapshot updated 05/28/2014

 Character guides

Mid Ziggs by cow - http://www.lolking.net/guides/7906

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on May 26, 2013

Holy stacked teams Batman!

 

 

 

on May 27, 2013

penance - ranked duo queue w pete - live now

sadly - mic is broke - but pete is audible

getting new headset tomorrow.

on May 27, 2013

Pacov, after watching your 5v4 loss with Pete, let me say something.

Your team was a bunch of morons.  They had no idea how to properly choose teamfights, and were therefore doing a bunch of bad engages throughout the whole game.

But, I suggest that the solution to that is not to farm throughout the entire midgame and then split push late.

Your team was actually trying to group throughout the whole game, but you were doing your own thing.  Throughout the whole midgame, your team was getting picked off and crushed despite being up a player.  You were solo farming bot, and even doing very low priority targets like wraiths while your team suffered.

Should your team have been getting in those fights?  Of course not.  But it was clear right away that they were going to charge in and die a lot.  They did it over and over.  Just group with your team so at least you have 5v4s instead of losing 4v4s a few times.

Then late game, your team was trying to group again, but you were off doing your own thing, which was solo farming bot again.  They got caught again, so you lost.

It was a 25-30 minute 4v5 game where your teammates tried to group repeatedly, but you were only with them one time that I counted.  This is what I get upset with over and over again when we play.  You have to find a way to group earlier to help out your team.  Yeah, it would be nice if your team would not get caught and not do stupid things.  But that is hard for many people, and if its clear that your team can't handle you split pushing/solo farming a lane, you have to group.

Its not like that loss was your fault or anything, but I think that there might have been better ways of dealing with the idiots on your team.

on May 27, 2013

I'm 2/1 duo'd with pete in ranked

I will carry him to plat before cow gets there.  So - there karl/cow.  Fix it or I will.

going to swing by best buy tomorrow and get a new headset.  I'm worried I might need to get a new mobo.  I can live with the cost, but my mouse has been fucking randomly spastic lately...haven;t had a problem like that in 5 + years.  Now its like normal operation then unable to reliable control for 2-3 seconds.  Believe me - u prob dont know how much you use your mouse until its fing up.  For me, its I can't scroll the screen, can click for last hits or engages.  Oddly, its MOSTLY been fugging up when I'm going in for AAs on enemy champs.  ANyway, I'm consdiering doing a reinstall of OS as step 1 and see how I do.  If that is crap, I'm going to look into mice.... then perhaps mobos.  My mouse is like 1 year old tops (razer imperator)>

edit - didnt read mr karl's post - off to bed - check out tomorrow.  I assume he commented on my amazing plays and how he wishes he could emulate me. 

on May 27, 2013


edit - didnt read mr karl's post - off to bed - check out tomorrow.  I assume he commented on my amazing plays and how he wishes he could emulate me. 

He kinda blathered on for a while, so I'll just paraphrase it for you:

When your team sucks you shouldn't group with them and try and get them back in the game, because they suck and deserve to lose.  You should instead split push or go off and AFK farm so you can congratulate yourself on doing very well in the game personally despite having idiots on your team.

If you are sucking in a game, you should also definitely not group with your team and contribute what you can because then you will have to take a backseat role in the game and let others carry you.  That's for pussies.  Instead you should let the other team take them down 4v5 while you AFK farm and split push, because it is better to have good CS in a losing game than to win one but look like a chump!

 

on May 27, 2013

I hope you guys hydrate properly.

on May 27, 2013

Thundercles
When your team sucks you shouldn't group with them and try and get them back in the game, because they suck and deserve to lose. You should instead split push or go off and AFK farm so you can congratulate yourself on doing very well in the game personally despite having idiots on your team.

FINALLY - someone has learned everything I can teach them.  I knew if I kept playing and started streaming folks would eventually unlock the secrets of pacov.  And I have idiots on my team every game I play adc, so I get a lot of quality time farming. 

Anyway, I'll preface the rest of my response with this - "hey pacov - what did you do last night?"  I'd reply by saying - "well, I got drunk and played ranked with peterdumptruck."  It's a pretty good summary.  We did lose the 1 game that karl called out and we won the other 2.  That first game I had pete to back me up as support.  The other 2 I grabbed pete mid each game and traded for whatever champ he had in whatever role was left. That went much better.

Been a busy day so far.  Got a new headset, updated my mobo firmware, reinstalled windows 8, and am now restoring my software/settings.  Should be in a playable state in a wee bit.  Also just remember that custom item sets were saved locally... so I'll have to recreate those... smeh.  Anyway, that's what I'm up to atm. 

on May 27, 2013

Dinner and then some LoL.  Be on in a bit. 

on May 27, 2013

GEE GEE

on May 28, 2013

get dat blue adc.  GEE GEE.  imagine a world where if you piss pacov off in a certain way (6/0 jungler) he will throw like a mofo.   Graves = #1 champ to have blue.  Did I mention we had a GP mid?

on May 28, 2013

Naut doesn't get second blue.  You were probably tied for the 4th person who should have had blue (with Sona).  Yeah, Hunny's claims about Graves needing the blue that much were silly, but wanting multiple blues on Naut is just not how jungle is played right now.

Jungle doesn't get good xp or gold even if they are relatively successful with ganks.  Jungle also doesn't get team resources like buffs.  The whole point of champions like Naut is that they can still be big contributors to the team even without gold, xp, and buffs.  Loading up a champion like Naut with buffs/gold/xp kind of goes against the whole reason that he is played.

And there isnt anything wrong with GP mid, especially if you can do an AP top.

on May 28, 2013


get dat blue adc.  GEE GEE.  imagine a world where if you piss pacov off in a certain way (6/0 jungler) he will throw like a mofo.   Graves = #1 champ to have blue.  Did I mention we had a GP mid?


I fucking dominated that game but zero help from anyone but karl doesn't cut it.  

on May 28, 2013

to be fair - GP mid is a "win lane, lose game" sort of champion. Though he's a great counter to Kass, and i imagine he is pretty good against TF as well if he doesn't put you to tower + roam too badly. But at least you can counter-ult him to sorta help.

But, GP mid doesn't offer much compared to most mages in teamfights. His ult is kinda okay for the 5 man slow but he doesn't have waveclear (an essential part of sieging), his poke is low range, and he has very little peel. 

So you look great for the first 15 minutes, probably end the game with a positive score... but it's what you expect. GP has heals, an anti-CC and as much ranged damage as a mage level 1-3. You don't play GP mid expecting to lose or draw a lane, that's for sure. Hence "win lane, lose game". It's like nunu top. Nunu top dominates lanes, makes people cry, wastes jungler time ganking... but come teamfights you realize that your team just devoted 10k gold to a champ that does the exact same thing if he had 6k gold instead.

It's okay to have a more "selfish" top laner who mostly builds damage + tank and is a general threat to everyone without providing a lot of team CC/etc. But midlane that can be a problem. 

AP Cho top kinda solves that problem (and i imagine its a good matchup againt also). However, with your team comp you only had one signficant damage source, and you were against an assassin. That doesn't work out (look at CLG and that is their big problem now in S3). 

on May 28, 2013

Finally got out of Silver5, again...

 

Four games, four wins.  I won my second promotional as a 0/6/0 Kayle top at 20 minutes, listening to the tard mid complain because the jungler has been anywhere but top for the entire game.  A few team fights later, the game is over and I've done their lane opponents in 3v1 to finish 7/6/6.  So much skill disparity.

on May 28, 2013

Krazikarl
Naut doesn't get second blue.

naut gets whatever the fug he wants with mid GP, son. 

OMG_ZEX
zero help from anyone but karl doesn't cut it.

Sometimes I like to gank for GP so he can get that 1 q off.  Wrecks the enemy mid pretty hard.  EAT AN ORANGE.  Then pick a more useful mid. 

psychoak
Finally got out of Silver5, again...

Four games, four wins. I won my second promotional as a 0/6/0 Kayle top at 20 minutes, listening to the tard mid complain because the jungler has been anywhere but top for the entire game. A few team fights later, the game is over and I've done their lane opponents in 3v1 to finish 7/6/6. So much skill disparity.

grats on moving on up again! 

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