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Well, I started a thread  back in August (https://forums.joeuser.com/411269/) that's seen a lot of activity and actually had quite a few good bits of information for new and old players alike.  I figure it's time to start a new thread and perhaps keep the OP up-to-date with useful information, etc.  Feel free to use this post for any LoL discussion, etc.

Super fast background:  I played a lot of Demigod as pacov/cheesuscrust.  Back in August 2011 or so, I started getting heavily involved in LoL and folks have been kind enough to chime in with tips and links to various sites that have been quite useful to me.  In addition, I've been able to keep up with folks that I've played Demigod with in the past and meet some new folks that play LoL and frequent these message boards. 

Here's some of the things I've learned in the previous thread:

 New Player tips

  • Play the tutorial.
  • Consider picking up the starter bundle.  It's 530 RP (that's about $4).  You get 8 champs unlocked, a 4 win IP boost and a 10 win XP boost.  It's a pretty good deal (used it recently on an alt account).  You can find it in the game store under bundles.
  • Riot gives you 400 RP as soon as you hit level 5.  It's enough to buy some skins, a boost, or a cheap character. 
  • Learn to last hit!  Last hitting is simply landing the last hit on creeps.  If you last hit, you get gold for that kill.  The number of creeps you have killed is tracked in a value called CS.  You can see this number in the top right hand corner of the ui or by pressing tab.  Here's a really simple tutorial re: last hitting if you are brand new - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LheiRB76x5g
  • Read some guides on any character you want to try out.  The recommended builds (what you see when you go to a shop) are not optimal.  The guides include item suggestions and skill orders.  These are very useful in learning decent ways to build characters
  • Use the rune combiner to get level 3 runes prior to level 20 if you like.  You will need 375 IP.  Buy any tier 1 rune that costs 15 IP.  You need to purchase 25 of these.  Click on your rune page.  In the bottom right hand corner there is a button called the Rune Combiner.  If you place 5 runes in there, you can get a random rune that is 1 tier higher (eg if you have 5 tier 1 runes, you will get 1 random tier 2 rune.  Anyway, the math works out such that you spend 375 IP ( buy 25 tier 1 15 IP runes) and you get 1 completely random tier 3 rune.  Some of the quintessences are 2k IP, so if you luck out and get one of those, you just won the lottery.  You can always keep the random tier 2 rune if you end up with something good and don't want to trade it out yet.
  • Consider setting aside IP for tier 3 runes (available at level 20 and above).  You can't purchase them with real money - only IP.  Keep that in mind.

Great site I visit every day for LoL related news - http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends

pacov's misc info

Here's a guide I made

pacov's Guide to Improving at League of Legends and Moving Up in Elo

k - so I'm just going to put down some of my thoughts.  I'm not amazing at this game, but I do certain things that improve my odds of winning in ranked and so far its panning out just fine (bronze 5 to gold 5 in about a month or so).  We all have varied skill levels, so some of this might be useful and some not.  Caveat complete.

Prerequisite- you need to know how to play every single role.  You don't have to be a god at every single role (more power to you if you are - I'm certainly not).  You need to be able to play at a serviceable level in every single role and excel at least at 1 role (preferably 2).  In my case, I'm good at support and adc.  I'm not great, but have serviceable mids and jungles and so so tops.  Knowing what you are good at and bad at is very important.  If you don't know, I can probably tell you - but you really should know...  Anyway, you need to have enough champs to make solid picks in any role and you need to be able to cover any role if it comes down to it.  I'll talk about how to get better at specific roles in a bit.

Champ select advice - Don't be the "fill" guy unless you really feel like you are awesome in all roles.  Call your preferred role immediately when you hit the lobby.  Say "adc pref."  Do this as soon as you hit the lobby.  Some people believe that if you call a role you magically get it.  This is stupid, but if you call something out, folks will often accomodate your request.  If you are feeling wishy washy for whatever reason, call out multiple roles in order of what you want to play - "adc/mid pref."  In my experience, you generally do not want to call support.  It's a very important role, but you want to be in a position to carry every single game if possible.  If you aren't calling out a role, you are hoping that other players can carry you.  If you are hoping that folks will carry you, you don't deserve to win.  You need to know your best roles and you absolutely should request them.

Solo or duo in ranked? - Well, my 1st thought here is that you should solo.  If you solo, you have to rely on yourself.  IMO - its a much bigger test of skill to play solo and win than to duo.  Do you want someone to carry you or do you really want to know that you are actually good?  That said, provided you have the right duo partner, you can increase your odds of winning quite a bit.  The simple math is that instead of having 4 teammates as unknown quantities, you only have 3.  If you have a good duo teammate, you know what you can expect.  When you duo, you get the most bang for your buck by having complimentary roles.  Support/adc is good; jungle/mid also works.  Even if you don't have direct symmetry in roles, if you are an amazing mid and I'm an amazing adc, our odds go up quite a bit if we both get those roles.  Our odds go way down if we can't get those roles and are forced to play out of positions that we are weaker.  For example, Bryff is a good mid.  If he duo's up with me, the only way he will get to play that role is for me to call mid, take it myself, and then put myself into a position like support where I can't carry out of (I'm always 1st pick, Bryff is always last pick when we duo)... that and I have to show the mid I'm picking at the start which means Bryff gets hard countered.  In short, we can expect that we will be a disadvantage when duo queuing.  Now, if Bryff queued up with someone at a lower elo than himself that was solid, he'd likely be 1st pick and be able to get mid and have a better chance of carrying the game.  Anyway, you need to keep in mind where you end up in pick order when duoing if you aren't looking to go adc/support.  If you want that, you can usually get it. 

How do you get better in roles that you are not good at? - Well, here's what I do.  And this is really what I do on a regular basis.  I think about what I'm good at and what I'm not good at.  For instance, I realized that I don't play any hyper carry ads.  So, I read up on hyper carries like vayne and kog maw.  I look for guides on how to build them (most adcs are the same btw ), I look for vids on how people play them (eg how do I all in with a specific champ - is there a combo - when do I all in - what's the best way for me to burst - how should I behave in lane with this champ).  Then, I fire up a custom game and try out the mechanics of whatever champ vs AI.  Usually I learn a few tricks during that custom on how to position myself, etc.  Then, I'm off to normal games where I'll request the role or character I'm trying out.  Now, people still report your for being awful in normals, but it really is where you need to try out characters to see if you are any good or not as the bots are useless for proving your skill level to yourself.  So, fire up that normal and ask to play a role (again - after you've tried out the champ against bots).  If you don't know anyone you are with and you are quite awful, I suggest muting everyone at the start of the game.  Then, do your best.  Continue with this until you feel like you have a serviceable skill level in whatever role.  And keep in mind what you need to work on.  For me, I noticed I didn't really have alot of mids for ranked, so I started practicing some with gragas against and karth.  That way, I'll be able to get the job done if I need to play mid.  The next thing I need to do is put more time into being better top lane. Again, because while I prefer adc/support, I might need to play top for the team.  So, best to be ready for it.  Put your time in and practice roles. 

One last thought - there are certain things you can generally expect in ranked.  1 - if you are 1st pick, you generally can call whatever you want.  Common knowledge, I'm sure - but I'll add - CALL WHATEVER YOU WANT.  2 - if you duo queue, you generally can lock down both adc and support.  It works best if your adc is 1st pick, ofc.  I've bumped into like 10 random dedicated supports in all of my games of LoL.  People generally aren't going to call support. So, if you are 1st pick and duo'd, just call adc and then your duo partner can almost always get support.

 

Lol King profiles for ranked tracking

I'm not going to update this regularly, so just consider it a snapshot (I'll add a date when I update them).  Anyway, I enjoy seeing folks progress through ranked and keeping tabs on that sort of thing from time to time. 

Snapshot updated 05/28/2014

 Character guides

Mid Ziggs by cow - http://www.lolking.net/guides/7906

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on May 05, 2014

awuffleablehedgie
i mean if you have a cheap ~level 30 smurf you haven't spent any money on ... transferring it over to LAN might be fine because worst case you lose 20 bucks.

I'll probably end up doing this before too long.  Maybe make a short series of vids with my nerd observations... we see.  Also... might just skip it all together. 

I think we are going to decide on our ranked 5's team replacement for adc today.  Just chatting back and forth with people on the team currently. 

 

 

on May 05, 2014

putzing around over on LAN - IGN pacov.  Something new and smart - my acct is level 3 - if I want to play against people, my only option is SR using team builder.  So, they actually enforce meta a little i'd imagine. 

on May 05, 2014

I'm disappointed to hear your IGN isn't "El Pacov"

on May 05, 2014

haha... i blew it... still time for you to take that one i'd bet. 

 

side note - team buider is doing not much to help at this level.  We get some conforming metas, but like a very high amount of trolls. I expect lower skill ofc, but a few games in a row where people just stand in the middle of a lane and do nothing. 

on May 05, 2014

oh.. and I've learned absolutely nothing about the ping diff. 

on May 06, 2014

Just an FYI:  Peterdumptruckington III is silver.

on May 06, 2014

heh - did he get a name change or is that one of you folks?  Nice at any rate.

 

Also, I super hate team builder/low level on my alt account on LAN.  Think I played 4-5 games yesterday.  Every single game had me with a substantially weaker team either via trolling or w/e.  Haven't really encountered anyone all that skilled yet via smurf or anything, but people lose 2v1 lanes (the 2 lose), the folks just stay in lane ad infinitum slowly taking out turrets.  I go somewhere to kill someone else, the enemy mid just stays at mid for 20 years and aa's towers.  So if I roam to catch folks back up or try to, we still end up losing some sort of objective.  Anyway, pretty frustrating crap.  Not really much fun and distracted me a bit too much - such that I wasn't really able to focus on the main thing I'm interested in - ping difference. 

 

on May 06, 2014

well they are nerfing UtH to 3 mana. Probably about time

 

on May 07, 2014

I am getting really burnt out of Ranked. I am damped so I lose more LP then I win. I am getting really burnt out in general.....

 

I wouldn't mind getting our try hard ranked team going again. I need something different in this game right now. Anyways school for me will be done in a weekish and I will be starting my engineering job in June. I will have a regular work schedule and should be able to be pretty regularly online. I would definitely want to play mid exclusively because I feel like I can carry extremely hard from that lane. We would have to find a few new faces I think. Gotnades doesn't really play anymore and he topped a lot for us....

I think some of the people that I would volunteer/nominate to be on the team:

-Hedgie

-Karl

-pacov

-Thunder

-Dan

-Swan (if hes around more) 

-Bryff (if hes around more) 

-Possibly my buddy snipersbane (hes pretty low level player right now but would probably be some what reliable for availability) 

 I also have a high plat player I duo'd queued with that is basically diamond he has been in diamond promos like 4 times now and has had bad luck. His name is Sandman47 and he mains jungle but can play other roles. He might be game. 

on May 07, 2014

awuffleablehedgie

well they are nerfing UtH to 3 mana. Probably about time

 

Hearthstone is about as stale as it can get right now as well :/ 

on May 07, 2014

Speaking of ranked 5's teams, my current team just had to kick our current mid laner that had been with us since the start.  Kind of bummed as I had to handle that stuff as captain, but it needed to be done.  Guy was really disruptive/didn't mesh with me all that well and really lacked humility when he made mistakes.  Didn't really fit the team dynamic we've been going for.  We're waiting a bit for that stuff to cool down then starting the quest to replace him.  Anyway, really hoping that change helps us out as we are starting with a new adc (mimira) and things just haven't really been a lot of fun as a team due to negativity. 

re: the team you are talking about, cow, idc - I'd join a ranked team and play with you fellas if you like as time allows, etc.  w/e role - just make someone the team shotcaller that isn't me and I'm good. 

on May 07, 2014

I'm fine with doing ranked 5's stuff.

on May 07, 2014

and my mid laner has been having a bit of fit all day. 

on May 07, 2014

While thanks for the offer, i don't think it's going to be practical for me for awhile. First of all, school is nuts.

Second, my skills have really deteriorated over the past few months and i think i'd end up just being a liability.

 

On the other hand, i could take up a coaching/analyst role. There's a few reasons that can work:

1- generally i tend to follow the high-elo meta and professional games a little more than some of the other people here

2- i'm confident in understanding correct rotations and stuff. i also know how to / how not to build. generally knowledgeable about matchups and counterpicks.

3- i generally don't take things personal and get super heated. Not "always" true. But generally true.

 

On the other hand, i'm not exactly sure that Silver I is a division that needs a coach/analyst

on May 07, 2014

Just to clarify as I think you are jumping between 2 discussions hedgie - cow's looking to recruit for a team.  My team's mid was cut, but I can't attempt to recruit from my pool of pals atm (though you'd be a great add I'm sure - there are a few people the folks on my team were trying to get as a replacement). 

That said, I actually really like the idea of getting a coach/analyst for the team - even if it just started out in a limited capacity in that you'd watch the games and provide feedback.  You are already doing that and I get to enjoy reading your feedback/commentary - this way you could just share some stuff with the team directly.  I'd enjoy that if you are down for such a thing (even if its on some sort of rotation where you spectate 1 night, etc). 

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