I pretty much never lolking people any more during champ select or loading screen unless they want mid lane so I can see if its worth giving it to them or if I should take it incase they are one of those people that decided to main mid lane after seeing bjergsen play mid zilean on stream (yeah that happened).

The only thing I get tilty about at champ select now is if people pick champions into there counter picks. Its like willingly jumping off a bridge into a spike pit. You can pretty much assume that that particular lane is already lost (especially in solo queue). First pick vaynes are also a sore spot for me unless the dude is a vayne main then whatever. Odd ball jungle picks are annoying as well especially when there is a vi/j4/lee/reksai/nidalee up yet but instead we get fiora.

Games last night:

Leaving Liss up for me to first pick worked really well. I don't think it was the only reason we won those games but it definitely helped. Everyone played pretty well in those games. Dan's Orianna was very on point in the last game. It seems like both me and Dan have been doing well on Ori and we might want to run her more often.

 I think the malphite/mao/hec game we should of won. Karl and Hunny were very fed and like Karl said if we just took a fight on our terms (initiating on jinx) we would of probably won the game. I was a naughty boy and went in on almost every pacov snare despite who it was. I think the worst case was when I started a fight after Pacov snared there super tanky leona around the dragon pit. We lost atleast 4 members I think and dragon from me getting jumping in on a very undesirable target. I needed to have better self control. If we ever run a comp like that we will just have to wait for flash + initiation on the carry or play for really easy picks.

Fun games anyway to bad we didn't go 3-1 : /

Since you're a mid main I can understand using it to figure out whether you should give away your pick.

Jungle... this fucking jungle nowadays.  Yeah, there is a limit to how much you can outplay the PvE so hoping that your teammate picks one of the few junglers that doesn't get demolished during their first clear is reasonable.

But counter picks?  Meh.  Maybe your ally is needlessly putting themselves at a disadvantage.  Maybe they are going to carry the game and make you look really dumb for saying they made a mistake playing their main.  Either way what good does tilting yourself and your ally in champ select do?

some other jungle changes on pbe

Crimson Raptor

• Damage reduced to 45 from 55

Murk Wolf

• Gold increased to 16 from 12

Raptor

• Damage reduced to 16 from 20

someone posted this on reddit and its actually a good tip.  I tried it once and was successful on the 1st try.  Good for all top laners to practice and learn.  I recommend saving the pic below and either trying at the beginning of a game as a top laner (eg run up and ward immediately) or testing in a custom.  I tried it out as a top laner and it was easy. 

The instructions seem a bit hard to read (for me).  I'll spell it out better. Right click on the red dot.  Press space.  Cast your ward on the right white spot.  Profit.  I think this is worth learning as it doesn't seem like something riot will adjust

That raptor damage was pretty epic...

I've not had the problem with sub-optimal junglers not being able to clear well, but I'm running 1/12/17 masteries and vamp quints on my junglers.  You still can't sustain early like you could before, but you can get through red in good shape with a gromp start.  It's not the best for optimizing damage late game, but the three biscuit start is good for gromp/blue/red with 60% plus health in good time with Rammus.  The summoner cd cooldown, trinket range and speed help with ganks and clear speeds, and the combined vamprism and durability is enough to sustain with the good junglers without needing a vamp item.  You still have to back with most of them, but you can usually make someone else back too.  On a successful gank with Rammus I usually get the first jungle upgrade and tier 2 boots off my first back.

you know that the -10% CDR reduction doesn't actually help your clear speeds since the Smite Rework. It only reduces the ICD from 15 seconds to 13.5. It doesn't make you recharge faster.

That said, i do know that Riot wants to change it to recharge faster in the future (maybe this patch with all the tank changes?)

so it looks nidalee will be taken down a peg on the next patch (I'm kind of surprised I haven't read about a release yet... mostly because the scope seemed really small on the last patch... and all they really did imo was wreck kass), but it looks like they may keep it cooking another week.  I'm honestly not sure much of a difference the proposed changes will make. Thoughts?

Bushwhack [ Human W ]

• Damage changed from 20/40/60/80/100 + 10/12/14/16/18 (+ 0.02 AP) % of target’s current health to 40/80/120/160/200 ( +0.2 AP)

Pounce [ Cougar W ]

• Base damage decreased from 50/100/150/200 to 40/80/120/160

Swipe [ Cougar E ]

• AP ratio increased from 0.45 to 0.55

hey karl - jungle question - how often are you backing before your 1st gank when you aren't doing that korea wraith camp to enemy camp deal?  If it varies, specific champs, etc, plz. Thanks! 

Those nid changes probably wont do anything to her current power level. Bushwack is not the problem. They shifted some damage around in her AOE spells in cougar form but they will most likely even out in the end. Her Q in cougar form is her biggest problem and its untouched.

I think if they lowered the damage or nerfed the range of her spear it would really take away from her iconic spell and what she is known for but if they nerf cougar form to much she will just revert back to an annoying spear chucking machine.

Hard to balance her without making her very linear and boring.

I wont be around at all this weekend so if you are looking for ranked team games it will have to be without me. I will be gone friday until late Sunday visiting family.

I think its targeted at jungle nidalee's clear?  I don't know, I don't play nidalee.

This varies hugely be champion.  A lot of junglers simply can't gank after their initial clear (THIS IS ONE REASON WHY PEOPLE DON'T LIKE J4 SO MUCH RIGHT NOW).  Some clear at nearly full health.  Some are in between and have the option with a decent leash, but often don't.

Yeah, if you would just list all the junglers that can gank after their first clear and which have clears that would leave them vulnerable to invades.  And maybe put it all into a spreadsheet with how that all varies depending on how good a leash you're getting if that's not too much trouble?  Thanks so much!  Also, remember to update it all after they tone down how much damage almost every jungle monster does right after the next patch.

next patch everyone should be able to jungle again

streaming last gamer of the night - sej jungle learning experience.  tips appreciated.  

game was a joke.  I played so so and carried like a god (eg big mismatch imo)... anyway, long winded post incoming i think.. late night work and i have a delay before i can start... f that - off to bed!